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consuelo's avatar

Hi Amy, I voted for Trump as being insane but I also believe he is being "handled". But things are becoming so crazy. I watch the really great podcasts of DDGotAPodcast and his take on that now-deleted AI picture is that Trump appears as The Magician as seen in a pack of Tarot cards and he showed the card on his podcast and The Magician is wearing the same garb as Trump is in the AI picture. I agree with DD. Another man, a pastor, opined that America is doomed to crash at this point and I feel that too. Destruction is hanging over us. Trump and his boss Bibi are bringing it down. Although who will send billions to Israel when America crashes I don't know. Of course D.C. can just keep printing worthless paper money like they presently do. The old testament tells about all the many evil kings that ruled Israel (and other Empires) and America also has had myriad evil rulers. Just in the last years America has had the Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, Biden and Trump. Reagan was no good either.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

The OT kings are brilliant examples of how foolish it is to put complete trust in people. Trust, verify, throw the bums out.

Luke's avatar

Feels like they’re pretty much steeling whatever isn’t nailed down phase. That really seems to be the case ever since Covid. I voted for T as well. Was a vocal supporter for many years. But if you are still simping for DT at this point you are no better than a typical covidian.

Very strange times, try and keep yourselves sane.

ATM's avatar

What you are seeing in the photo is the Earth illuminated by moonlight. That's why you see the glimpse of sunlight on one edge of the Earth. A camera can pick up much finer details in low light situations. Think of a cell phone seeing Northern Lights when your eyes see only darkness.

Michael A. Stilinovich's avatar

Or think of your eyes seeing a Hollywood production.

https://youtu.be/nof1hhJNVZo?t=491

ATM's avatar

Funny coincidence but I knew Neil Armstrong, not well but met a few times and even golfed with him.

No doubt in my mind he went to the moon.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Nifty! I met Michael Collins in a church-sponsored event. He was doing a book tour, if I recall. His vibe was exactly nothing like what I got from crossing paths with creepy James Carville. I feel like we should trust our spidey senses.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Very cool. I don’t doubt the probability of the whole program being staged. However, open to all arguments, I lean toward the Eagle landed. I think there are plausible critiques of Peggy Hall’s position.

Apollo technology was far ahead of commercially available tech at the time. E.g., the hippity hoppity tape and tracking of the module lift-off we're told is from a remote-controlled video camera from a post set up after touchdown. What we were told was live footage at the time could have been delayed by many hours. The flag was wired open to look like it was blowing in the wind rather than flat and stiff. And shadows are affected by 3-dimensional ground contours.

Even so, the Masonic and Hebrew threads are interesting. I’ll have to watch more of her videos. With a skeptically open mind for all arguments, of course.

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Moondoggle boondoggle......if we were able to go there in 1968, why have we never gone back?

Also, this movie about Songkran from Omeleto....https://youtu.be/Gi__cddQCNU

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Maybe technology for what we wanted to accomplish next wasn’t worth the investment from a congressional-funding point of view? Also, public interest had waned toward the end of the program, which reduced propaganda value. For sure and in some quarters, discrediting everything American has been considered a good thing since long before the space race began.

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Thank you for your comment. After looking at the evidence, (much of it in museums still) I do not believe we ever went. Humans are not supposed to live in space. It is very bad for humans, and all animals. That's why we are here and not up there to begin with. If there was a point to aerospace programs it was to be able to launch the 15,000+ satellites that now spy on us, and worse, daily.

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It seems we could prove space is black because plasma absorbs or doesn’t reflect light, and the profile of Artemis II exposed to the sun and background stars is always illuminated to some degree. I suppose spacecraft and the reflective ability of various celestial bodies vary. But now I’m in way over my head.

Something else I don’t know. Maybe ASEAN alignments are influenced by the amount and type of Chinese vs American aid and investments. Every April 15 reminds me, damned if we do buy foreign allegiance, damned if we don’t.

But I’m convinced The Way is helping and healing each other and allowing ourselves to be helped and healed by others. And yes, one by one is the best way to go about it.

Rhiannon's avatar

Have read that Trump took multiple covid jabs---if so, am wondering if the spike protein has invaded his brain.....

Hadley Ford's avatar

The night sky is dark (even in space) due to **Olbers' paradox** resolution: the universe isn't infinite, eternal, and static as once assumed.

Key reasons in short:

- The universe has a finite age (~13.8 billion years), so light from the most distant stars hasn't had time to reach us yet.

- The universe is expanding, which stretches light from faraway galaxies into invisible wavelengths (redshift), preventing it from brightening the visible sky.

- Stars aren't eternal; they have finite lifetimes, and space between galaxies is vast, so their combined light doesn't fill the sky.

Together, these make the background of space mostly black instead of blazing bright from countless stars.

Honeybee's avatar

I continue to be proud...extremely proud...that, although I supported many of Trump's professed policies while he was campaigning, I ultimately did not vote. I would never have voted for Biden. Yet, despite the fervor which always engulfs everyone prior to an election, I couldn't vote for him. I could never get past his inordinate support for Israel and Netanyahu coupled with his lack of denunciation for the genocide in Gaza. My karma is clean.

Btw, this last election was the first time in 50+ years of elections in which I haven't voted. I always felt that voting generated good karma for one's soul. Participating in elections and exercising our freedom engenders good causes. Karma is simply cause and effect.

Trump, at first, highly amused me. Today, I agree with consuelo. I voted that he's "insane." I think he's a narcissist of the first order, and like the autism spectrum, I think all disorders of personality and character have a spectrum.

I always understood that he was a showboater, always self-aggrandized himself (actually a sign indicating lack of confidence), and a braggart. He was funny, too. He seemed to like and enjoy people. He's known to have been incredibly generous at times.

I now place him on a narcissism spectrum on the most extreme range. All personality/character disorders create delusions and illusions. He's living, in my estimation, among very degraded delusions at this point thereby attempting to create equally degraded illusions throughout the world.

The Jesus Christ posting is his view of himself.

I read on many issues and keep them under advisement. Thus, I've read about the belief that the entire Artemus adventure is filmed on a Hollywood back lot. I've been struck by one detail: where are the stars? I understand that our sun can "blot" out stars, but shouldn't we see some evidence of the massive solar material our telescopes pick up? Some of the nebula are incredibly massive. The Universe is "alive" with stars forming, enduring, and collapsing. We never see one star.

Thus, I incline toward a Hollywood production. Now...here's the catch. I believe we do have the power and wherewithal to initiate and maintain space flight. I believe the UK hacker who hacked NASA records long ago and found logs assigning "off-planet" officers. I believe the hacker. He got in much trouble and narrowly escaped jail.

I think these current flights are productions to create and foist a fairy tale on humankind. The more askew our information and the more askew our beliefs from reality, the greater the power of those who exercise such power over us. They want dumbed-down beasts of burden except for the very few extremely intellectually and, in some cases, physically gifted who will be hooked up to and become apart of AI. They want entire control over space, and part of that control involves keeping humankind thinking space is black and "unalive."

Otherwise, we would know what divine beings we are as part of the Universe.

Amy Sukwan's avatar

While I believe that interdimensional and interplanetary travel may be possible perhaps with astral projection or other esoteric methods, I do not think human space travel is currently happening the way it is described and projected on the screen. I believe this narrative was designed to entrap us into a solely materialistic view of the universe which denies God, the soul, consciousness and their role in creating the reality we manifest.

"And the Universe extends to a place that never ends which is maybe just inside a little jar." I always liked that line from an Animaniacs song.

Honeybee's avatar

Oh, Amy! Great reply with which I have little to disagree. I have a hard time reconciling a coherent POV when evaluating statements from people who have had experiences involving off-planet "beings."

I think particularly of Charles Hall and the "Tall Whites" at Indian Springs (Area 51). I've read all his books. Perhaps Hall is a psyop of exquisite proportions, but his entire recollections and story seem so believable. He also speaks of being present as a gigantic aircraft--damaged by asteroids--made an emergency landing near his location in Area 51. Evidently, this race of beings--who he said look very much like us--have an agreement with our government in case of emergencies and they need to land for repairs.

I think, too, of the top secret material Bill Cooper encountered when working for Naval intelligence detailing encounters with "off-planet crafts." He also had a direct encounter from a ship.

"Bill Cooper's UFO incident occurred in 1966 while he was serving as a port lookout aboard the USS Tiru, a U.S. Navy submarine, near the Seattle-Portland area. He reported witnessing a massive metallic disc, comparable in size to a Midway-class aircraft carrier, emerge from the ocean, tumble on its axis, and ascend into the clouds. Shortly after, the craft—or a similar one—descended, repeated the maneuver, and re-entered the water seamlessly, with the ocean parting and closing behind it without a violent splash." (Brave AI)

Many crew members witnessed the event. One man took photographs which, of course, disappeared into Navy secret files.

I think, too, Gigi Young is correct that many of the crashed "UFOs" are devolved human beings who have access to technology from long ago. IOW, they live some place like Antartica with secreted technology. Perhaps technology also developed within recent centuries stolen by oligarchs is aggregated there, too.

I remember, also, Admiral Byrd's initial account--before he was silenced by the government--in which he gave an interview describing the advanced "flying saucers" which attacked his armada in Operation Highjump.

Another story would involve the vimana (craft described in old Vedic texts) supposedly uncovered in Iraq which occasioned all the world leaders suddenly to make a trip there. During Obama's administration. He went, too.

Ultimately, I've come to believe very much that the observer determines their own reality. Like the "Observer Effect" in quantum physics although that situation is the individual involved in establishing the parameters of an observation.

I think, too, of the night goggles in Vietnam. When the pilots and crews wore these night vision goggles, they saw demons. Like demons from old-time Renaissance painting and medieval sculptures. True demons laughing and jeering at them flying right along their aircraft. Not one crew but all saw these demons when using the goggles. They were freaked out. They absolutely refused to wear the goggles. The U.S. military quickly discontinued their use.

Our true "reality" is so multi-layered drawing a coherent view from simply our intellect is quite difficult.

Supposedly, according to Steiner, humans are to become more etheric but remain in a lighter physical form in the next phase of human spiritual development (New Jupiter). If humans are more etheric in their composition but still material to some degree perhaps these types of beings can then "space travel" because the important point is that consciousness enables such travel.

Like in my QHHT session many years ago. It opened as I teleported myself into a small, well-lit cubical room or "station" for teleportation. My mind interacted with an instrument on my wrist (like a watch), and wherever and whatever I was (I appeared "human" although my head was very tall like a dome), we teleported by using this instrument. Our homes were dug into the Earth, but inside was palatial. Like a palace. Everyone lived like that. Simply a more advanced dimension.

Investigators of UFOs have cited the fact that entering the downed space craft was eery because, although the craft itself was small, inside was far, far larger completely unaligned with the material dimensions of their space craft outside.

Crazy stuff!!

Mckeekitty's avatar

The naive adults book!

Luke's avatar

That’s funny stuff. I cannot believe where we are at and I don’t mean that in a good way. So much of it doesn’t make any sense.