For all the vaunted speed of technical execution, everything I’ve seen produced by these things is *soulless*. I would take your painting over the bot fart in a heartbeat. That’s something that I don’t think can be approached by any neural net or machine learning. The good stuff—the art and music that moves and touches you—has soul. That’s what gives it its power.
As a corollary, I think biology is much more complex than we currently understand it, or at least pretend that we do. It’s the hidden mystery, vast as an ocean (and as unexplored), that will stymie even the fastest, most accurate calculations. Complexity isn’t about speed or even accuracy. We’re at a point now where they’re playing with lego blocks…and creation, suffice to say, is infinitely more complex.
But you miss the obvious. An artist would take the first AI generated picture, and then add details like the grass and natural background all done by the AI. 4 or 5 generations later and who made the image? The artist or the AI?
Of course a super image AI would watch what the artist did and duplicate it. Give it five more years.
AI is really good at generating porn. Therefore it is unstoppable. Patchen Barss, author of “The Erotic Engine: How Pornography has Powered Mass Communication from Gutenberg to Google.”
The classic study is VHS vs. Sony Betamax video tapes. The inferior VHS did not block porn. Sony Betamax did. Bye, bye Betamax.
Successful artists, writers will soon become people who are very good as setting up a story idea, and then become the editors, fixing the AI generated output. Hacks will be able to generate decent works using the compiled work of dead authors to train the AI. Hack maybe unfair, it will still take good editing skills.
“miss the obvious”? Nothing you’ve stated here is illuminating anything overlooked. It’s certainly true that the tech will be refined, honed, and integrated into process. Making convincing porn doesn’t give it soul. In my opinion.
AI is a reflection of how stupid humanity has become. Like a dog that drops the bone from is mouth when it sees it's reflection in a pond of another dog with a bigger bone in its mouth. Welcome to digital oriborus
There's a lot of truth to that and I have been pondering why so many digital spaces turn into this open air food fight of sillyness. Even with the jabs bad people there was a whole rift over virus/not a virus and who is a limited hangout/cool the marks/controlled op and who was "real." I think some degree of that can be cleared up in a follow the money way but there are still some true believers to every camp imaginable. When will light and love and compassion and humility be given a chance?
Excellent and corresponds to an essay I just completed. In your example showing AI art contrasted with the painting there are distinct and critical differences. The painting demonstrates a fundamental human excellence and a helpful emotional context. The AI art has that kind of pitiless disembodied gaze we might imagine as the Eye of Sauron in Lord Of The Rings. My essay revolves around these observations and the application of them.
Thanks for your insight I'll read your essay if you share it! I don't like the gabbyAI as much but I just wanted to use it as an example. Hey maybe I will finish my new leopard painting!
If I can wake up enough to rewrite it well enough it will happen. Look forward to your response and to the painting. I like the contrast between the paintings. It sens important.
I read this and clicked over to hear Rima Labow here. The first 2:30, and it just seems so clear, esp. after listening to the Day Tapes, that this is all long planned, and if they have the tech they are going to employ it.
And they are going to keep testing while the Middle Managers keep wringing their hands, saying, "it's complicated."
Precisely my thoughts on the matter. If they can do it they will do it. The biggest problem I perhaps have with the AI is precisely that it was programmed by largely atheistic nihilistic types caught in a corporate punching down clown show that forever blames the mass of humanity for problems often created at the top to consolidate their power. In this type of environment the reasonable output of the system would be kill them all they are too stupid to live...
"the tinkering of crazy old billionaires who dream of immortality for themselves."
boom.
the artificial "intelligence" model is DOA right from the start because it's modelled solely on the brain. the vasculature, digestive and reproductive systems all have cognitive cells as well and they aren't part of that equation. nor are our etheric bodies or our souls.
i would take your painting over the one from the machine in a heartbeat.
and the clunkiest song i ever wrote would kick the computer's ass. john henry beats the steam drill with one hand tied behind his back here.
the "fact checkers" could be replaced by a sign reading "Big Brother is always right." no need for an AI, that's a waste of resources when all the fact fakers do is repeat government/industry partnership talking points.
Thanks. I actually gave that one to a BFF who had bought many of my artwork in the past as a Christmas present. Last I checked she still had it hanging on her wall
Your painting reflects soul and spirit, two things AI might be able to mimic but will be obvious to those of us not raised under and fooled by AI (or generally disappointed with stuff like techno “music”). AI cannot and never will generate soul and spirit. I’ll even endorse Kyle Young’s evolutionary explanation, although I believe there is a Creator God who is the source of all sentience and spirit. No machine will ever be God. Just ask the Wizard of Oz.
I also consider myself a Capitalist, but I think somebody should cut Bill Gates' allowance before he hurts himself and somebody else.
Biological life evolved over millions of years. It also evolved systems of check and balances to keep one system from subsuming another. Death and the recycling of biological resources that occures after death is a good example of this.
The technology you've referred to is only a few decades old. Where are the checks and balances? Where is the built-in death and recycling aspect? There is none. This technology represents the epitome of human hubris.
For all the vaunted speed of technical execution, everything I’ve seen produced by these things is *soulless*. I would take your painting over the bot fart in a heartbeat. That’s something that I don’t think can be approached by any neural net or machine learning. The good stuff—the art and music that moves and touches you—has soul. That’s what gives it its power.
As a corollary, I think biology is much more complex than we currently understand it, or at least pretend that we do. It’s the hidden mystery, vast as an ocean (and as unexplored), that will stymie even the fastest, most accurate calculations. Complexity isn’t about speed or even accuracy. We’re at a point now where they’re playing with lego blocks…and creation, suffice to say, is infinitely more complex.
Thank you and I agree with your sentiments completely
But you miss the obvious. An artist would take the first AI generated picture, and then add details like the grass and natural background all done by the AI. 4 or 5 generations later and who made the image? The artist or the AI?
Of course a super image AI would watch what the artist did and duplicate it. Give it five more years.
AI is really good at generating porn. Therefore it is unstoppable. Patchen Barss, author of “The Erotic Engine: How Pornography has Powered Mass Communication from Gutenberg to Google.”
The classic study is VHS vs. Sony Betamax video tapes. The inferior VHS did not block porn. Sony Betamax did. Bye, bye Betamax.
Successful artists, writers will soon become people who are very good as setting up a story idea, and then become the editors, fixing the AI generated output. Hacks will be able to generate decent works using the compiled work of dead authors to train the AI. Hack maybe unfair, it will still take good editing skills.
“miss the obvious”? Nothing you’ve stated here is illuminating anything overlooked. It’s certainly true that the tech will be refined, honed, and integrated into process. Making convincing porn doesn’t give it soul. In my opinion.
AI is a reflection of how stupid humanity has become. Like a dog that drops the bone from is mouth when it sees it's reflection in a pond of another dog with a bigger bone in its mouth. Welcome to digital oriborus
There's a lot of truth to that and I have been pondering why so many digital spaces turn into this open air food fight of sillyness. Even with the jabs bad people there was a whole rift over virus/not a virus and who is a limited hangout/cool the marks/controlled op and who was "real." I think some degree of that can be cleared up in a follow the money way but there are still some true believers to every camp imaginable. When will light and love and compassion and humility be given a chance?
Old Australian saying
Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see.
https://open.substack.com/pub/saxxon/p/chat-gpt-equals-chat-npc?utm_source=direct&r=1u8tu3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Excellent and corresponds to an essay I just completed. In your example showing AI art contrasted with the painting there are distinct and critical differences. The painting demonstrates a fundamental human excellence and a helpful emotional context. The AI art has that kind of pitiless disembodied gaze we might imagine as the Eye of Sauron in Lord Of The Rings. My essay revolves around these observations and the application of them.
Thanks for your insight I'll read your essay if you share it! I don't like the gabbyAI as much but I just wanted to use it as an example. Hey maybe I will finish my new leopard painting!
If I can wake up enough to rewrite it well enough it will happen. Look forward to your response and to the painting. I like the contrast between the paintings. It sens important.
I read this and clicked over to hear Rima Labow here. The first 2:30, and it just seems so clear, esp. after listening to the Day Tapes, that this is all long planned, and if they have the tech they are going to employ it.
And they are going to keep testing while the Middle Managers keep wringing their hands, saying, "it's complicated."
Hence why the Dr. Peter post shook me up a bit.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/top-whistleblower-dr-rima-laibow-warns-globalists-preparing-new-bio-attack-learn-the-secret-history-of-covid/
Great interview, just sent all emails as Dr. Roma Laibow suggested:
https://preventgenocide2030.org/
"Could the mRNA Platform Be Used for This?"
It would be foolish for us to think otherwise.
Precisely my thoughts on the matter. If they can do it they will do it. The biggest problem I perhaps have with the AI is precisely that it was programmed by largely atheistic nihilistic types caught in a corporate punching down clown show that forever blames the mass of humanity for problems often created at the top to consolidate their power. In this type of environment the reasonable output of the system would be kill them all they are too stupid to live...
PRECISELY!
"the tinkering of crazy old billionaires who dream of immortality for themselves."
boom.
the artificial "intelligence" model is DOA right from the start because it's modelled solely on the brain. the vasculature, digestive and reproductive systems all have cognitive cells as well and they aren't part of that equation. nor are our etheric bodies or our souls.
i would take your painting over the one from the machine in a heartbeat.
and the clunkiest song i ever wrote would kick the computer's ass. john henry beats the steam drill with one hand tied behind his back here.
the "fact checkers" could be replaced by a sign reading "Big Brother is always right." no need for an AI, that's a waste of resources when all the fact fakers do is repeat government/industry partnership talking points.
and it's been a year or two since this court case, but for the underinformed: https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/report-facebook-admits-in-court-filings-its-fact-checks-are-merely-opinion-and-now-everything-is-in-question/
Your painting of the tigers is far superior to that digitally generated garbage.
I don't want to live among robots but I don't have much say in the matter...
Your say is your choice. Live among the living...
they have capabilities far beyond what we can imagine already. what we are “allowed” to see is the tip of the iceberg.
The eyes of your leopards have a life force to them which the AI "painting" does not. I'd buy yours.
Thanks. I actually gave that one to a BFF who had bought many of my artwork in the past as a Christmas present. Last I checked she still had it hanging on her wall
Your painting reflects soul and spirit, two things AI might be able to mimic but will be obvious to those of us not raised under and fooled by AI (or generally disappointed with stuff like techno “music”). AI cannot and never will generate soul and spirit. I’ll even endorse Kyle Young’s evolutionary explanation, although I believe there is a Creator God who is the source of all sentience and spirit. No machine will ever be God. Just ask the Wizard of Oz.
I also consider myself a Capitalist, but I think somebody should cut Bill Gates' allowance before he hurts himself and somebody else.
Biological life evolved over millions of years. It also evolved systems of check and balances to keep one system from subsuming another. Death and the recycling of biological resources that occures after death is a good example of this.
The technology you've referred to is only a few decades old. Where are the checks and balances? Where is the built-in death and recycling aspect? There is none. This technology represents the epitome of human hubris.
Perhaps you can find a way to sell your artwork online...
Your painting has atmosphere and soul, a slice of life captured. The AI one is cold and plastic, dull and lifeless.
Thanks for the link I'll check it out