50% someone at the top, and the remaining 50% evenly distributed between the spineless morons who would have watched you being taken away to a concentration camp and applauded.
the punishment must start at the top, being a top down operation but if you don’t punish everyone who reasonably should have been expected to know (doctors) the infrastructure remains for history to repeat. All participants must feel so burned to create a high hurdle for future participation in any capacity.
Unlikely that it will happen when the perpetrators have control.
Ultimately there's a bottoms up or tops down way of looking at it. In short culpability is with all of us for letting this system fester and perpetuate. Conversely though the perverse incentives, and Iean financial, have clearly been evil and are driven by the top. Could we as mass awakened humanity drive these vultures into obscurity, as they literally have no audience for their shreaking hysterics like the homeless person shouting at a wall? Perhaps but we'd have to control the monetary system
We need to get off this NWO monetary grid. How can we create and surround ourselves with self-sufficient, self-sustaining neighbors who trust each other because they share the same core values? Somewhat like middle America farmers and ranchers from the Dust Bowl to Farm Aid. Does it take villages like Mayberry?
Aim high and wide. We have a large group of war criminals to put in their new heavily guarded tiny cities together so they may eat the bugs they have provided for us. They should serve each other well Justice will be served ice cold.
If there is going to be a Nuremburg 2.0 then it will be because we demand it and carry it out ourselves. There are very few leaders I trust and my current understanding is that Nuremburg 1 was a sham anyway.
How do we do that though? Sometimes I imagine just walking up to members of the school board or hospital administrators and just telling them that they are under arrest..... and that they will pay huge fines and never work again, I know, I know we can’t just impersonate the police but where the hell are they ? Where are the law enforcers? The laws mean nothing if they are not equally enforced or if they are unjust.
Rules for thee but not for me has been the MO of the ruling classes for thousands of years it seems.
Sadly, we now live in a world where all of the institutions we ordinarily count on to hold people accountable for wrong doing are now so thoroughly corrupted that we will never see anyone held accountable for their covid misdeeds. We're on our own.
I would blame educated people who let this woke and education overtake for too long. The one who had capability to understand and capacity to see where it is going on should spoke out long time and not let this happened. They should stand up and argue about cancel culture, idiots not knowing what women or men is and also about health advices, which makes people more sick than healthy. They stayed silent and I blame them. It's their duty and position in society to speak out and they didn't do it, on contrare, they fueled this and allow it to happened by crossing lines, bending rules and protocols.
The best way to say FU to the super super rich at the top would be to rebuild Americas industrial and especially farming base and the middle class, both of which the cabal has specifically been destroying for 50 years. As a matter of fact it may be the only way. They want a vassal/overlord world 'again' and will not stop in trying to attain it. Here is a link of a GREAT talk by John Coleman 1994- he reveals the family names of the super super rich, a few of them at least; those rich families from ancient times didn't go away, they went further underground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc1NxfmtOTc (talk starts at 3:30 min in)
It’s a long past that will continue every holiday birthday. I too am watching to see if Justice is carried out. There are signs of hope the AG in Texas is making headway. So far no swift justice for anyone yet? Reiner Fulmich (?) where are you? Seems to me we know what was done, by who, but is saying this, the legal system is very infiltrated. Pfizer money seductive. I am furiously boiling like a magma pocket underground still pissed at the whole affair and many of the dip shit sisters or sisters in law that went along with their abusive masters. I pray I live long enough to see JUSTICE on this and the election frauds. I got 30 years. It’s a long future.
Nuremburg 1 followed an extensive bloody conflict, where the subjects of the trial (i.e. who had not been already killed in the conflict) were rounded up and imprisoned first. Prerequisites I’m not keen on living through, but half expect anyway, have not been met for a Nuremburg 2.
"Everyone who abused his or her power to impose toxxine mandates must be hanged"
And you know what? It got more than 13,000 views in spite of the criticism. Getting visibility for our demand for justice helps to get us moving towards justice. Vox populi, vox dei.
And even if we don't get justice, the visibility of our demand helps to keep in check those who would do it again in an instant if they could.
Nuremberg is comforting as an idea, but given the truth we know about that show, it’s clearly highly unlikely that a 2.0 would happen, even though something authentic along those lines is needed.
As for who to blame in the scenario you described, I would choose ‘all of the above’. I think, on one hand, you are absolutely correct that we should aim high for the orchestrators. Simultaneously, the harms were a product of each actor’s choices and actions. Yes, it is true that many were under the influence of coercion, the victims of lies, and going along to get along, but their impact was real.
In my opinion, it isn’t enough to absolve everyone of the role they played. That, however, is not the same thing as seeking vengeance or reprisal.
At some point, true healing will require an accounting from every person involved, in measure to the role they played, and the influence they exerted. How that takes shape is something everyone will have to collectively arrive at. That assumes, of course, that true healing is desired…which may not be what is pursued by many, despite the inevitable need. It will come out, even if it is buried.
For #1, there will be no reckoning. Even in case of some very unlikely outcomes, Ie RFK wins the election, proves not to be a fraud, starts opening the books and prosecuting based on existing US law.
Basically impossible, not even for sacrificial lambs as it would be (tens of?) thousands of people in places of power who would have to be tried and found guilty. The system just cannot bear that. At best they will only be sidelined, and in case of genuine change agencies and institutions would become transparent, (many) corporations dissolved, so repeat of what is currently standard practice would not be feasible.
If anything this would be some sort of reckoning, but really it is more likely that actual reckoning will come in the form of WWIII, than a peaceful resolution, considering who is running the show at this time.
For #2, the blame is with baffeld doctors, who are meant to be educated to heal you. If you could sue them to oblivion and thousands like them, the system would eventually get better. People will always have hypochondriac sisters in law, and there will always be megalomaniac psychopaths at the top, but we could in theory have independent, educated physicians in not so distant future. who rather than enabling hypochondriacs following psychopath fearmongering, would instead act in a rational manner.
That change, even though truly difficult, is still more feasible than any sort of reckoning for what was done over past three years. We need studies linking the cure with the illness, and while suppressed they will eventually surface, and be accepted. We also need removal of legal protections granted by fraudulent agreements. Hard but not impossible.
Who would have thought that Monsanto will eventually be losing with Round-up, and Purdue with Oxy. This one is even harder, but in a decade or two, we may get there.
Having come to realise that even Nuremburg 1, was partly a show trial, I have zero faith in these evil men being brought to justice.
They are the ones who hold the reins of power and justice.
They hold the reins of money. That's it
I want to see Tony Fauci squirm and wet his pants...
That would be awesome
Same way he treated those poor beagle puppies.
Expecting if anything an Epstein like exit into retirement
Amy, you need to put another option in the survey "ALL OF THE ABOVE".
That would be my vote.
LOL it limits me to Five choices just sampling. I agree though!
50% someone at the top, and the remaining 50% evenly distributed between the spineless morons who would have watched you being taken away to a concentration camp and applauded.
the punishment must start at the top, being a top down operation but if you don’t punish everyone who reasonably should have been expected to know (doctors) the infrastructure remains for history to repeat. All participants must feel so burned to create a high hurdle for future participation in any capacity.
Unlikely that it will happen when the perpetrators have control.
Ultimately there's a bottoms up or tops down way of looking at it. In short culpability is with all of us for letting this system fester and perpetuate. Conversely though the perverse incentives, and Iean financial, have clearly been evil and are driven by the top. Could we as mass awakened humanity drive these vultures into obscurity, as they literally have no audience for their shreaking hysterics like the homeless person shouting at a wall? Perhaps but we'd have to control the monetary system
maybe could be done with just control of US armed forces, quick & dirty?
I like your thinking! But whose orders are they following?
someone with pure intentions, may have to wait for Jesus
US military is corrupted.
We need to get off this NWO monetary grid. How can we create and surround ourselves with self-sufficient, self-sustaining neighbors who trust each other because they share the same core values? Somewhat like middle America farmers and ranchers from the Dust Bowl to Farm Aid. Does it take villages like Mayberry?
Aim high and wide. We have a large group of war criminals to put in their new heavily guarded tiny cities together so they may eat the bugs they have provided for us. They should serve each other well Justice will be served ice cold.
Aim high and wide indeed
I like your answer.
Time for guillotines.
https://youtu.be/TMHCw3RqulY
Why would you trust a banker court in Nuremberg run by the Rothschild's.... Why?
If there is going to be a Nuremburg 2.0 then it will be because we demand it and carry it out ourselves. There are very few leaders I trust and my current understanding is that Nuremburg 1 was a sham anyway.
How do we do that though? Sometimes I imagine just walking up to members of the school board or hospital administrators and just telling them that they are under arrest..... and that they will pay huge fines and never work again, I know, I know we can’t just impersonate the police but where the hell are they ? Where are the law enforcers? The laws mean nothing if they are not equally enforced or if they are unjust.
Rules for thee but not for me has been the MO of the ruling classes for thousands of years it seems.
We need real justice.
I wonder how citizen’s arrests would turn out.
Sadly, we now live in a world where all of the institutions we ordinarily count on to hold people accountable for wrong doing are now so thoroughly corrupted that we will never see anyone held accountable for their covid misdeeds. We're on our own.
I would blame educated people who let this woke and education overtake for too long. The one who had capability to understand and capacity to see where it is going on should spoke out long time and not let this happened. They should stand up and argue about cancel culture, idiots not knowing what women or men is and also about health advices, which makes people more sick than healthy. They stayed silent and I blame them. It's their duty and position in society to speak out and they didn't do it, on contrare, they fueled this and allow it to happened by crossing lines, bending rules and protocols.
The best way to say FU to the super super rich at the top would be to rebuild Americas industrial and especially farming base and the middle class, both of which the cabal has specifically been destroying for 50 years. As a matter of fact it may be the only way. They want a vassal/overlord world 'again' and will not stop in trying to attain it. Here is a link of a GREAT talk by John Coleman 1994- he reveals the family names of the super super rich, a few of them at least; those rich families from ancient times didn't go away, they went further underground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc1NxfmtOTc (talk starts at 3:30 min in)
It’s a long past that will continue every holiday birthday. I too am watching to see if Justice is carried out. There are signs of hope the AG in Texas is making headway. So far no swift justice for anyone yet? Reiner Fulmich (?) where are you? Seems to me we know what was done, by who, but is saying this, the legal system is very infiltrated. Pfizer money seductive. I am furiously boiling like a magma pocket underground still pissed at the whole affair and many of the dip shit sisters or sisters in law that went along with their abusive masters. I pray I live long enough to see JUSTICE on this and the election frauds. I got 30 years. It’s a long future.
Nuremburg 1 followed an extensive bloody conflict, where the subjects of the trial (i.e. who had not been already killed in the conflict) were rounded up and imprisoned first. Prerequisites I’m not keen on living through, but half expect anyway, have not been met for a Nuremburg 2.
I get a lot of shit for having written this post, but I stand by it:
https://patrick.net/post/1377537/2022-11-03-everyone-who-used-his-or-her-power-to
"Everyone who abused his or her power to impose toxxine mandates must be hanged"
And you know what? It got more than 13,000 views in spite of the criticism. Getting visibility for our demand for justice helps to get us moving towards justice. Vox populi, vox dei.
And even if we don't get justice, the visibility of our demand helps to keep in check those who would do it again in an instant if they could.
No, there won't be.
Nuremberg is comforting as an idea, but given the truth we know about that show, it’s clearly highly unlikely that a 2.0 would happen, even though something authentic along those lines is needed.
As for who to blame in the scenario you described, I would choose ‘all of the above’. I think, on one hand, you are absolutely correct that we should aim high for the orchestrators. Simultaneously, the harms were a product of each actor’s choices and actions. Yes, it is true that many were under the influence of coercion, the victims of lies, and going along to get along, but their impact was real.
In my opinion, it isn’t enough to absolve everyone of the role they played. That, however, is not the same thing as seeking vengeance or reprisal.
At some point, true healing will require an accounting from every person involved, in measure to the role they played, and the influence they exerted. How that takes shape is something everyone will have to collectively arrive at. That assumes, of course, that true healing is desired…which may not be what is pursued by many, despite the inevitable need. It will come out, even if it is buried.
For #1, there will be no reckoning. Even in case of some very unlikely outcomes, Ie RFK wins the election, proves not to be a fraud, starts opening the books and prosecuting based on existing US law.
Basically impossible, not even for sacrificial lambs as it would be (tens of?) thousands of people in places of power who would have to be tried and found guilty. The system just cannot bear that. At best they will only be sidelined, and in case of genuine change agencies and institutions would become transparent, (many) corporations dissolved, so repeat of what is currently standard practice would not be feasible.
If anything this would be some sort of reckoning, but really it is more likely that actual reckoning will come in the form of WWIII, than a peaceful resolution, considering who is running the show at this time.
For #2, the blame is with baffeld doctors, who are meant to be educated to heal you. If you could sue them to oblivion and thousands like them, the system would eventually get better. People will always have hypochondriac sisters in law, and there will always be megalomaniac psychopaths at the top, but we could in theory have independent, educated physicians in not so distant future. who rather than enabling hypochondriacs following psychopath fearmongering, would instead act in a rational manner.
That change, even though truly difficult, is still more feasible than any sort of reckoning for what was done over past three years. We need studies linking the cure with the illness, and while suppressed they will eventually surface, and be accepted. We also need removal of legal protections granted by fraudulent agreements. Hard but not impossible.
Who would have thought that Monsanto will eventually be losing with Round-up, and Purdue with Oxy. This one is even harder, but in a decade or two, we may get there.