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the survey options not mutually exclusive, we need a Venn diagram 🙀😿

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LOL that should be a meme!

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Yes to the Venn diagram!

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I didn’t take the poll because you left off the correct answer lol. “All of the above” is what I suspect. At least they were all in the know.

I was just pondering this a bit ago. Seems most people on the right have gone full Michael Moore (inside job). That’s ok if it’s correct. I certainly want to know the truth.

My question is this: If TPTB truly brought those buildings down with controlled demolitions I gotta think critically and ask the question just how long do you think it would have taken to setup an operation like that?

NEWS ALERT! I know next to nothing about explosives or controlled demolitions. But damn I gotta think rigging those buildings up (in secrecy) would take a helluva long time. I would think if they announced they were going to do it ahead of time it would still take months to get shit ready. In building that is occupied by thousands of people with security up the ass mind you. They would need to hide every inch of their tracks……I say it’s preposterous and impossible.

Can anyone explain to me how this would have even been done without magic wands? Keep hearing the building were purposely blown up but nobody seems to ask what it would take.

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I agreewith aall ofthe above too. Regarding how long wouldit have taken to set up I'll go with years. It would have taken years of planning. There's some documents like Project for a New Americaan Century and clear evidence the Patriot Act was written in advance which indicates some foreknowledge. It wouldn't have been a short time thing...perhaps even mapped out for decades in rough terms...

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They were in the process of adding /upgrading the fireproofing to the buildings before the attack. This would have been a perfect cover story to rig the building with explosives. Nothing would have had to be done in secret, it could just be done in plain site. The crew would just come in to work day after day, placing explosives while appearing to be working on the fire proofing.

Not saying that’s what happened but it’s a possible way to rig a building with explosives while pretending to be doing some other work. Fireproofing is a good cover but any other major “upgrade” to building services/structure would also work.

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I have not spoken to a demolition expert but I can say that it would have taken years to rig that building/those buildings. It’s impossible to have done without getting noticed. In an operation so vast and spanning so much time someone would have noticed something. I suspect every floor would have needed to have explosives planted on every main support. The wiring would need to be programmed to fire off in a sequence conducive to collapsing a 110 story building (in this case 2 and several others).

You’re giving them too much credit and it’s far to complicated to pull off. Like with many mass shooters I suspect the hijacker’s had some inside help. At the very least some insiders knew it was coming and elected to let it ride in secrecy aiding and abetting the enemy. Imagine the force a giant aircraft transfers coming to a full stop in flight. It is literally the definition of an “unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.” The transfer of energy combined with the heat would have been enormous.

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I think you might have missed the part where I said I’m not saying that’s what happened. But replacing or adding fireproofing would be perfect for what you describe. Fireproofing work would require you to access every structural element but you’d only have to take out some key structural elements to cause a collapse. If you believe the plane scenario it also didn’t have to take out every column, so you would only need to detonate the same columns that the supposed plane damaged. Something took out enough of the structure to collapse it, either a plane or something else. Personally, I’m on team plane, I don’t think it was a controlled demolition of the two towers, Though I wouldn’t rule it out but I think a 767 +fuel ploughing into the buildings would be enough energy to cause it to collapse. Building 7 on the other hand looks very suspect. Asymmetric building falls into its own footprint by random fire damage. If they blew up building 7 why not the other two? Many things on the day are very suspect and i don’t think they have been adequately explained. I went down this rabbit hole a while ago and definitely think the official explanation is bogus but many of the alternate explanations are as well.

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There is no reasonable way a 767 fully fueled can cause what was observed. I thought we went over this already 😅. No fire can explain the atomization of that much building mass. The debris pile at the base post-collapse doesn’t lie. Much much more than selective removal of certain structural supports. Don’t get me started… 😊

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I've been starting to peruse Dr. Wodd's analysis and the Star Wars program as in here: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam4.html

For the last few days I hve been pondering Satanism. I had a few scary dreams regarding this and many people (both loved ones and strangers) have been deceased in my dreams and trying to talk to me. So I prayed to God regarding what Satanism was. The answer I recieved in my dream was unusual but also was the first time I ever felt that God was speaking directly to me and not through any proxy.

In the dream I was hiking and I climbed to the top of a ridge, where I had a view of the most panoramic sunset imagineable. A snow capped mountain was off in the distance set upon a still lake. The sunset colors in the clouds produced every color of the rainbow possible and the lake produced a perfect reflection of all of it. It was the type of glorious awe inspiring scene that would surely win photograph of the year.

In the dream God spoke to me then. "So you want to know what Satan is? He is the reflection in the water. Everthing is upside down yet it appears as beautiful. But I am the one who gave him the light."

"So if you were destroyed, then...?" I questioned.

"There would be nothing at all." God said. That was the end of my dream.

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Powerful dream.

The fallen, twisted inversion of creation—using, or rather misusing—gifts of mystery. Like things we’ve seen and are seeing. The seeker might ask if evil exists without good, and vice versa. Yet, the true source is never ending, ever resonant, even amidst a cacophony of discord and malice…

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I was actually going to direct Luke to our discussion elsewhere but thought better of it. It might be too much for him 😂

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Well, we’ve all written enough on substack to publish a veritable tome…no one can deny that. 😅

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Good points. Not sure if you have seen this? I Don’t know much about Dr Breggin but I know something here doesn’t pass the smell test. Our country has freaked out over kids getting stuck in wells. I can’t believe this goes unanswered.

https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/mauis-inferno-organized-human-evil?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

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Thanks for the link Dr Breggin’s post is excellent and raise lots of unanswered questions.

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Ivo and Luke - there are several excellent DVDs on the 9/11 event - at least one by architects. It was all controlled demolition. Track down any of the videos and watch it. Total inside job. Get and watch: 9/11: Blueprint for Truth, the Architecture of Destruction.

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It could have started as early as 1993 after the first 'terrorist' attack in the WTC parking garage.

That explosion caused $500 million of damage to the WTC. This would have been the perfect cover to have access to all support members of the WTC. Also, they could be a bit sloppy with the explosives since they didn't care about damage to adjacent buildings.

911 was yet another large scale covert military op like Operation Paperclip, MKUltra, MKNaomi and Project Mockingbird.

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I believe the very top tier knew what was coming but I hear all the time the building was bombed. A controlled demolition like most people describe is a very precise operation. Much different than parking a uhaul next to an ibeam or even a couple of them. In that scenario would seem very hard to predict how the building would fair. Could fall over but it would still be in large sections I am guessing. The point I am making is a controlled demolition would be next to impossible.

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I think it was both controlled demolition and directed energy weapons and/or other advanced military weapons as evidenced by the pyroclastic flows.

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Excellent post lady.

I picked the U.S. Gov't, because it's like saying STD, which encompasses all the sores, puss, deformity and degeneracy, the acronym is meant to represent.

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Very disturbing additional MAUI material, in this latest substack from MARK CRISPIN MILLER

> https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/hawaii-governor-starts-to-give-the?utm_campaign=email-post&r=pf3bw&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

~ hawaii governor starts to give the game away, then struggles to unsay it

Meanwhile, over 1,700 children are still missing, yet no one's asking where they are...

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That linked Breggin piece is damning. I have seen the pics of all the burned cars. So many without tires. Takes an extraordinary amount of heat to have done that. Only a raging forest fire or maybe lava eruption could pull that off in nature. As I scanned the pics there just doesn’t appear to be any fuel that could make a fire that hot. Could a lot of wind in a very large fire do that? I wouldn’t think so.

Heard it was about a 1,000 missing children but it’s a moot point. Where are the pictures on TV, the memorials, etc, etc, etc. Many of which are indigenous peoples too the left always tries to score political points with. This is some really freaky shit. It’s like something out of horror flick or Twilight Zone.

You know what’s the most disturbing (same as covid) watching everyone just forget it happened. Watching Normies side so easily with TPTB and follow their orders without the least bit of suspicion.

I have thought of the possibility we (US Govt) could have done to display a weapon system (DEW) to adversaries. “Let us show what we have and will even let it loose on our own people.” Sounds like they wanted them out anyway.

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After I first heard of Eric West I took a look at his YouTube channel and then his Real Estate web-site. Being a real estate broker myself I wanted to confirm he was who he said he was. Yep he is.

Sounds like a good guy reporting what he saw and doing his best to help people locally.

Now they are trying to destroy him? Heart-breaking.

You might be interested in reading this SubStack which started with a thread on Twitter. It was not able to be saved by thread reader on twitter for some reason so is published here, https://elizabeththepunisherdove.substack.com/p/the-punisher-files-what-really-happened

I try my best to ask ‘cui bono?’

Who benefits?

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Thank you for this one!

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On your survey all 4/5 except the extreme Muslims.

If you’d put extreme Zionist instead I’d say all 5.

I’ll look at this tomorrow!! Terrorist and pandemics

Just the reason to suspend a constitution, seize power, enact the patriot act while jeopardizing individual citizen rights. 3 buildings 2 planes

Where are the engines? Where is the porcelain?

19 men with box cutters hijack planes and IF YOU

BELIEVE THIS the Jim Jones Kool aid is available

Via Pfizer and Moderna at your local pharmacy.

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Amy! You REALLY need to be an independent investigative reporter! I'm dead serious. This is the VERY best coverage I have ever seen regarding Maui. The very fact that these reports are being scrubbed speaks volumes.

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Thanks. I've done a ton of writing over the years I have a very good memory and a very good intuition. I do what I can I suppose but mainstream journalism is dead: they need you to be incurious and willing to drop stories if they go too deep or challenge prevailing aspects. That's been true for decades most of this comes up against very powerful corporate interests anymore...

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"We wrestle not against flesh and blood...."

I have been going down the Doctor Wood rabbit hole and many light bulbs are turning on for me. I agree that so many groups benefited from the established narrative. For the military industrial complex they get to test their new toys and from the ensuing wars get more money to test newer toys.

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You are over the target, if the truth was to come out, which it won't (911 for example), it would shake us to our core. That is why I voted Satanic Pedophiles.

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thanks for the reinette senum video. the 9/11 boatlift out of lower manhattan is inspiring (although she's off by a couple of zeros about the number of people rescued). also worth mentioning the attempted air rescue - every helicopter pilot within 50 miles headed straight for the towers and were turned away by the DOD

glad to see the poll tracing all the way to the bottom and the pedo satanists pulling the strings

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It's interesting that I had never heard of it at all prior. It's a very inspiring story it's sad they so obviously block and discredit now...

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they never talk about us coming together because that thwarts the divide-and-conquer.

i was boatlifted out of hoboken in august 2003 when we had the big blackout. the trains had stopped running, i was helping a bandmate move. we had just loaded the elevator in her building and i was mulling whether or not to put another load in, stepped out seconds before the power went out. had i tried to go up i would have been stuck in there for god knows how long.

with no trains running, i had to walk to the ferry to get back to manhattan and by the time i got to the pier they were just waving people aboard. humans can do great things as long as authority figures are not involved.

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"humans can do great things as long as authority figures are not involved."

That's very quotable...

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Amazing statement, and entirely true.

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I chose “satanic pedophiles” because “follow the money” and “satanic” implicates “all of the above.” Whatever justifies pumping taxpayer cash at them, they’re for it, humanity be damned. In so many words, Soros says, “If I don’t rape, pillage, and plunder, somebody else will.” Such a stupid, stupid man. Reinette captures a hard truth: “We are the army. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

Amy, who are the investigative reporters cataloguing the properties that still stand in Lahaina and identifying the owners? That could be quite telling.

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That's a great question! I have a FEMA chart from early on and Eric West as mentioned wanted to document the damage for homeowners on their insurance claims but has recently been complaining that they've locked down the area. Some are saying that many have left the island. To a degree I don't blame them. Particularly for the struggling native Hawaiins whose most sacred land has now turned into the site of a massacre they may no longer feel the same way about living there

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I lost a home in a fire. I didn’t own a threatened sports car, and the stovetop was the least of our losses. It’s devastating. For the devastated and displaced, all I can say is, “Heavenly Father, put your healing hand on the people of Maui and make justice prevail.”

Grasping at straws . . . Can the surviving structures be identified by address? Or does the question attract govt spooks?

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I voted for the last option too, but the bottom 4 options are basically the same thing.

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The voluntary portion of the extermination is OVER. Start painting your roofs blue, or at least stock up on blue tarps, ASAP;-) Oh, and stock up on storable FOOD.

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