For all of my 58 years, there has been more than a subtle message from both educational and religious (in my case, Catholic) institutions to have fewer kids, that we are overburdening the earth. In addition, my own parents neither encouraged nor discouraged me to have kids, as if they had no opinion about the subject. (I come from a family of 4, but my Mom had at least 8 pregnancies and a few miscarraiges to get to that number). As if this was not enough discouragement, my parents and my siblings were dutifully injected with various death elixers that likely decreased our viability as humans; I could share stories of illness. My sisters birth control pills (in the late 1970s) resulted in her eventual sterility due to hysterectomy. The enormity of this anti-birth psy-op is staggering, especially because it has been implemented so silently, without decree or discussion.
It has been implemented with extreme stealth. Some years ago I was on some ultra liberal group of feminists discussion board. It was all biological females back then as a "safe space" but then they later included transgenders and got into arguments about TERFS and started eating their own and I had to bounce on the whole sordid mess. These were the type of gals, almost universally childless (the one other actual mother of two in the group that I recall seemed to practically apologize for how she was contributing to destroying the planet with her selfish desire to pass on her genes) who would arrange abortion sympathy and divorce parties. But one day a very interesting thread emerged: a young woman was bitterly complaining about how her hormonal birth control was causing like horrific side effects with her. She named off a laundry list of things from bloating to fatigue, weight gain, excessive acne, fibromyalgia, uneven periods, et cetera. She said she was going to take herself off of it since her doctor was not listening to her or taking her problems seriously. The whole group shunned her as one for it: but but but she needed to listen to her doctor even if she was dying from the medicine that the doctor prescribed she knows best and even worse, BUT THEN YOU COULD GET PREGNANT. Enslavement is a thoroughly institutionalized mentality....
Yes, delaying childbearing simply doesn't work very well, in terms of biology, despite the effort to sell that idea to the last 2 generations of women. For 'a million years' we were making babies before we were 20, and then, suddenly, we are sposed to wait to 30 or later. On top of poisonous jabs, it makes the depop agenda quite more clear, doesn't it? I have recently felt sad all over again for the few girls in my highschool who went through living hell because they got pregnant. I can see it for what it was, now, a hatred of all that we are and have been for thousands of years. Even at the time it didn't make any sense to me, the way these young mothers were singled out and humiliated in public schools. Criminal, they were doing exactly what they should have been doing. Having your first baby at 30+ puts both the mother and the baby at much greater risk all the way round, and makes for some tired parents for a toddler, to boot. I know, my mom was 37 (in 1964) when she had me, and she and my Dad were plum tuckered all the time. This affected my life rather seriously and not for the better.
For many, all the land they ever needed took up the size of a tennis court.
And the humans would not allow them even that.
"They'll just go somewhere else."
Critters went "somewhere else" and were extirpated from there also.
Over and over again.
There are too many humans on this planet.
I came to that realization in 1972.
Witnessing all the wholesale destruction of animal habitats to benefit "development": carpeting the countryside with housing, as families needed someplace to empty out their bunk beds.
Agenda 21 is not a solution, and neither is cluttering up the countryside with windmills and PVs.
The earth is overpopulated in the sense that population is a factor of available energy. If you track the burning of fossil fuels it tracks precisely with population. But now we are drilling 15,000 ft below the sea, using tar sands, etc, where we used to get 200 barrels of oil for every one we burned, it is now less than 10-1. The life we have grown accustomed to is simply not possible ongoing, and no one knows this more than Bill Gates and company.
But because most people don't really understand this, nor that nuclear, renewables and batteries are simply not anything like a replacement for automobiles particularly, the solution for Bill Gates and company is sterilizing and killing people, and most people are so propagandized on so many levels they make very easy prey.
The energy replacement debate is it's own huge one and I might wade in on a later post. I was very into peak oil threads maybe 15 years ago I still do not know if abiotic regeneration is correct. Cynthia Chung seems to think nuclear is the answer whereas I think a decentralized solution which harnesses natural resources in the area combined with personally responsible energy usage would be best. For example we have solar panels on our house in Vegas and have thus far done well with them. Las Vegas is of course well suited for solar while Jolly Old England may not be. I feel similar with hydroelectric. But these must be worked out on a case by case basis with an even playing field of total resources used EROEI equations, just as medical "advances" should be guaged against total mortality ..
If abiotic were real and mattered we wouldn't be drilling at 15,000 ft bsl, fracking or tar sands. The only people I know who take that seriously are those who can't accept the idea of resource constraints generally. Eternal progress is effectively a religion in the West.
That said, I don't often bring it up because too often now the energy predicament gets tossed in with the WEF/Bill Gates eugenicists and their not exactly subtle depopulation program. In the past too I would talk about consumerism as a kind of death cult. But a curious thing has happened in the freedom movement as a reaction to the eugenicists, a kind of doubling down on status quo economic progress.
True. Me and my 16 year old vegetarian daughter were having a conversation regarding that a few days ago: she was getting some backlash from my I only eat meat uncle a few months ago. The all meat diet that has swept through the Midwest I consider to be an extreme whiplash effect from "You will eat ze bugs and be happy," but it strikes me as an immature overreaction: perhaps good for cleanses but long term proponents I've known tend to be overweight and in poor health. I wrote a bit about it, actually: https://amysukwan.substack.com/p/vegan-cleansing-recipes I go back and forth on whether resource constraints are real, in the sense they can't be overcome by any means. I think this gives too much of a free pass to the elites: when you look at the incentive structure in place, they finance costly solutions that don't work, every single time...
"Just remember that we are the carbon they ultimately want to reduce." This is a great thing to keep top of mind. World leaders do not have our individual best interests at heart. In fact, the powers that be hate us and want us dead. It is sad to think this way but important to understand as we navigate our lives with our family and friends. The problem is we are in a fallen world.
I suppose otherwise we would just ferment. ;-) I enjoyed the Forbes article though I didn't put any direct quotes in my article from it, though maybe I should have. The author tied lowered childhood mortality to vaccines, which as a long term anti vaxxer I tend to disagree with, as I attribute more of it to improvements in sanitation, garbage disposal, indoor plumbing and refrigeration. But some of the bizarre predictions like that London would be buried in horse manure by 1950 (predicted in 1892) were priceless lessons in how often these dipshits have always gotten this stuff wrong. I've read the original Malthus essay but it goes back to when I was in college . The advances in agriculture are almost unbelievable themselves...
The advances are amazing, but the population curve over the last century shows he was right. Forbes isn't honest in any way, they will advocate Austrian economics simply for the sake of low taxes and laissez-faire, ignoring its teachings about credit expansion. In short, they're a hall monitor, a system agent.
The overpopulation scam is at the heart of this. A lot of people have internalized it. Social media plays a role in this too: a lot of people consciously or subconsciously believe that they are going to live forever, which encourages a type of hedonistic thinking that gives no credence to legacies past or future. Igor Chudov is reporting that both the decreased births and excess deaths seem sustained for the foreseeable future. There's a desperate need for solutions to this but no money in finding them and right now too many people in deer in headlights mode about all of it...
I would love to have more children myself but for reasons that are beyond my pay grade it has eluded me. I got pregnant with my nine year old literally the first month we tried I was 33 then. When she was about 2 1/2 we decided to try again and nothing happened. Besides some tests determining that neither me or my first husband had any obvious reason for it eg no blockages, years have passed and nothing has happened. Now I'm 43 but I'm trusting in God's plan, whatever it is. That said youth is often squandered on the young
For all of my 58 years, there has been more than a subtle message from both educational and religious (in my case, Catholic) institutions to have fewer kids, that we are overburdening the earth. In addition, my own parents neither encouraged nor discouraged me to have kids, as if they had no opinion about the subject. (I come from a family of 4, but my Mom had at least 8 pregnancies and a few miscarraiges to get to that number). As if this was not enough discouragement, my parents and my siblings were dutifully injected with various death elixers that likely decreased our viability as humans; I could share stories of illness. My sisters birth control pills (in the late 1970s) resulted in her eventual sterility due to hysterectomy. The enormity of this anti-birth psy-op is staggering, especially because it has been implemented so silently, without decree or discussion.
It has been implemented with extreme stealth. Some years ago I was on some ultra liberal group of feminists discussion board. It was all biological females back then as a "safe space" but then they later included transgenders and got into arguments about TERFS and started eating their own and I had to bounce on the whole sordid mess. These were the type of gals, almost universally childless (the one other actual mother of two in the group that I recall seemed to practically apologize for how she was contributing to destroying the planet with her selfish desire to pass on her genes) who would arrange abortion sympathy and divorce parties. But one day a very interesting thread emerged: a young woman was bitterly complaining about how her hormonal birth control was causing like horrific side effects with her. She named off a laundry list of things from bloating to fatigue, weight gain, excessive acne, fibromyalgia, uneven periods, et cetera. She said she was going to take herself off of it since her doctor was not listening to her or taking her problems seriously. The whole group shunned her as one for it: but but but she needed to listen to her doctor even if she was dying from the medicine that the doctor prescribed she knows best and even worse, BUT THEN YOU COULD GET PREGNANT. Enslavement is a thoroughly institutionalized mentality....
...AND NOW YOU CAN'T GET PREGNANT....EVER. Groupthink so strong. Thanks for the story A.
Yes, delaying childbearing simply doesn't work very well, in terms of biology, despite the effort to sell that idea to the last 2 generations of women. For 'a million years' we were making babies before we were 20, and then, suddenly, we are sposed to wait to 30 or later. On top of poisonous jabs, it makes the depop agenda quite more clear, doesn't it? I have recently felt sad all over again for the few girls in my highschool who went through living hell because they got pregnant. I can see it for what it was, now, a hatred of all that we are and have been for thousands of years. Even at the time it didn't make any sense to me, the way these young mothers were singled out and humiliated in public schools. Criminal, they were doing exactly what they should have been doing. Having your first baby at 30+ puts both the mother and the baby at much greater risk all the way round, and makes for some tired parents for a toddler, to boot. I know, my mom was 37 (in 1964) when she had me, and she and my Dad were plum tuckered all the time. This affected my life rather seriously and not for the better.
If anyone thinks the earth is overpopulated, please, let’s start with you. Put your money where your mouth be at
I've always said that...
Wildlife have gone extinct.
For many, all the land they ever needed took up the size of a tennis court.
And the humans would not allow them even that.
"They'll just go somewhere else."
Critters went "somewhere else" and were extirpated from there also.
Over and over again.
There are too many humans on this planet.
I came to that realization in 1972.
Witnessing all the wholesale destruction of animal habitats to benefit "development": carpeting the countryside with housing, as families needed someplace to empty out their bunk beds.
Agenda 21 is not a solution, and neither is cluttering up the countryside with windmills and PVs.
IMHO.
The game is to demonize anything that is required for life on earth, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc.
ZERO evidence either of these do anything to harm the planet;-)
But we are all required to DIE before these MONSTERS will stop.
As much as these monsters aggravate me, they shouldn’t.
Those of us who are good, reject their message.
“The family of 10 who didn’t get vaccinated will inherit the earth.”
For another view, go here, then zoom out on the world.
https://ghsl.jrc.ec.europa.eu/visualisation.php
New House Bill Aims to Strip Away Pharma’s Liability Protections from Injuries and Deaths
https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/new-house-bill-aims-to-strip-away
The earth is overpopulated in the sense that population is a factor of available energy. If you track the burning of fossil fuels it tracks precisely with population. But now we are drilling 15,000 ft below the sea, using tar sands, etc, where we used to get 200 barrels of oil for every one we burned, it is now less than 10-1. The life we have grown accustomed to is simply not possible ongoing, and no one knows this more than Bill Gates and company.
But because most people don't really understand this, nor that nuclear, renewables and batteries are simply not anything like a replacement for automobiles particularly, the solution for Bill Gates and company is sterilizing and killing people, and most people are so propagandized on so many levels they make very easy prey.
The energy replacement debate is it's own huge one and I might wade in on a later post. I was very into peak oil threads maybe 15 years ago I still do not know if abiotic regeneration is correct. Cynthia Chung seems to think nuclear is the answer whereas I think a decentralized solution which harnesses natural resources in the area combined with personally responsible energy usage would be best. For example we have solar panels on our house in Vegas and have thus far done well with them. Las Vegas is of course well suited for solar while Jolly Old England may not be. I feel similar with hydroelectric. But these must be worked out on a case by case basis with an even playing field of total resources used EROEI equations, just as medical "advances" should be guaged against total mortality ..
If abiotic were real and mattered we wouldn't be drilling at 15,000 ft bsl, fracking or tar sands. The only people I know who take that seriously are those who can't accept the idea of resource constraints generally. Eternal progress is effectively a religion in the West.
That said, I don't often bring it up because too often now the energy predicament gets tossed in with the WEF/Bill Gates eugenicists and their not exactly subtle depopulation program. In the past too I would talk about consumerism as a kind of death cult. But a curious thing has happened in the freedom movement as a reaction to the eugenicists, a kind of doubling down on status quo economic progress.
True. Me and my 16 year old vegetarian daughter were having a conversation regarding that a few days ago: she was getting some backlash from my I only eat meat uncle a few months ago. The all meat diet that has swept through the Midwest I consider to be an extreme whiplash effect from "You will eat ze bugs and be happy," but it strikes me as an immature overreaction: perhaps good for cleanses but long term proponents I've known tend to be overweight and in poor health. I wrote a bit about it, actually: https://amysukwan.substack.com/p/vegan-cleansing-recipes I go back and forth on whether resource constraints are real, in the sense they can't be overcome by any means. I think this gives too much of a free pass to the elites: when you look at the incentive structure in place, they finance costly solutions that don't work, every single time...
"Just remember that we are the carbon they ultimately want to reduce." This is a great thing to keep top of mind. World leaders do not have our individual best interests at heart. In fact, the powers that be hate us and want us dead. It is sad to think this way but important to understand as we navigate our lives with our family and friends. The problem is we are in a fallen world.
Imagine linking out to Forbes magazine to try to "debunk" Malthus. Have you even read his Essay on Population?
Of course not. And yet the world population has risen to insane levels because of all the food the white West made possible.
We are yeast.
All that matters is that we survive.
I suppose otherwise we would just ferment. ;-) I enjoyed the Forbes article though I didn't put any direct quotes in my article from it, though maybe I should have. The author tied lowered childhood mortality to vaccines, which as a long term anti vaxxer I tend to disagree with, as I attribute more of it to improvements in sanitation, garbage disposal, indoor plumbing and refrigeration. But some of the bizarre predictions like that London would be buried in horse manure by 1950 (predicted in 1892) were priceless lessons in how often these dipshits have always gotten this stuff wrong. I've read the original Malthus essay but it goes back to when I was in college . The advances in agriculture are almost unbelievable themselves...
The advances are amazing, but the population curve over the last century shows he was right. Forbes isn't honest in any way, they will advocate Austrian economics simply for the sake of low taxes and laissez-faire, ignoring its teachings about credit expansion. In short, they're a hall monitor, a system agent.
I run two window fans all summer.
Many other people do so also. All over the world.
I believe that these fans a' spinning push all the excess heat up into the upper atmosphere, whereby it is cooled by the chill that is outer space.
That is why we have not burned to a crisp.
So. If They succeed in shutting down the grid (to stop climate change), the planet will quickly overheat, and we will all perish.
Except for the Elite, because They have air conditioning.
That is my scientific analysis. ;)
Yeah. Sure.
But who wants to poot out 10 kids? And all the work to support them?
I remember, when I was a kid, people with large families aged quickly and we're old and spent in their 40s.
That handsome couple in the wedding pix looked nothing like themselves after 15 years of constant toil and stress.
The good old days were not that good.
The overpopulation scam is at the heart of this. A lot of people have internalized it. Social media plays a role in this too: a lot of people consciously or subconsciously believe that they are going to live forever, which encourages a type of hedonistic thinking that gives no credence to legacies past or future. Igor Chudov is reporting that both the decreased births and excess deaths seem sustained for the foreseeable future. There's a desperate need for solutions to this but no money in finding them and right now too many people in deer in headlights mode about all of it...
I would love to have more children myself but for reasons that are beyond my pay grade it has eluded me. I got pregnant with my nine year old literally the first month we tried I was 33 then. When she was about 2 1/2 we decided to try again and nothing happened. Besides some tests determining that neither me or my first husband had any obvious reason for it eg no blockages, years have passed and nothing has happened. Now I'm 43 but I'm trusting in God's plan, whatever it is. That said youth is often squandered on the young