I can't imagine facing what your facing, wrt the vaxxes....I cannot imagine being trusting of any jab. Ka's attitude is similar to my family's here in America, and my relatives in Canada. Hating your government is an acquired notion, slowly at first, then all at once. Praying for you from Oregon
Make them sign a contract that if anything happens to Ka they are liable. Or scribble that in english on anything they make you sign sign and get a copy for yourself.
That's good idea I'm going to see what they say on the scheduling. See I paid for this medical exam and they claim that vaccines are not included in the price. I do not remember if that was true when Oh had his panel physician exam but I think it was worded differently back then. Somewhat obviously I am not going to pay for my husband to face the jab roulette. It's an interesting angle. They might bounce us back and force me to get a medical exempt before they'll see him. We'll see...
I wish I had saved all of the paperwork but the phone book is pretty darned thick on all of this by this point. That said is there a wayback machine digital screenshot way to get at this what they said in 2014 stuff? I know exactly what I would be looking for....
Possibly. Wayback doesn't save everything but they do save a lot of documents, although I don't know about Thai docs. You can sign up for Wayback and do a search.
US Embassy stuff should be in English, though when it comes to Thai documents that near requires speciaty. I've had time I was locked out of my own account, usually the result of good nephew's kindness and food versis
I think a Westerner threatening to cause embarrassment/loss of face and escalation to a higher authority is a very viable angle. Many Thais will go into "how do I make this go away ASAP" mode.
After much thought and prayer regarding this situation you summarized well the angle I am using. I have a bit of a bone to pick with the panel physician over my first husband and think I have an extremely strong case. I'm well aware that Thailand is a place where you can do everything as long as you don't talk about any of it. I think they're already using some lawfare on me in other contexts. The nurse is supposed to get back to me about Ka's exam appointment. I have reiterated that he is not vaccinated for Covid19 and that I don't think he should receive any vaccines, so I've already pulled the trigger on not trying to get some shady fake jab certificates on Telegram or something. It's their move next...
“ I am not my husbands keeper” I know Amy but you best give him the Jesus sermon, too many people just approach this underestimating the lethal aspect and overestimating their own strength. God Bless !!!
"underestimating the lethal aspect and overestimating their own strength" is very quotable here. I spent years trying to detox Oh with his myriad health problems. I am not going to say that was the only thing that was going wrong there, because it wasn't, but it was like a negative feedback loop that ended in this dark spiral. I've seen how the iatrogenocide plays out over decades. I get how they did it. Even Jasmine says things sometimes which indicate to me that in the wrong back against a wall situations she might take the jabs and hope for the best. It's wrong on so many levels
My kids were indeed faced with that situation and just 10 and 13. Out "adopted" lolo and lola (parents of a long-term close friend), actually took them to a vaccination centre (they were in all the malls) to show them. Then told them they could get vaccinated, without telling mum, if they wanted. Lolo and Lola are their entire family are diehard believers, so far without very obvious poor outcomes.. though we are now past the 2 year mark for them.. and I wonder what comes next). My 13 yo told them you are not authorized to approve vaccination for us. We cant do this without our mum's approval. She knows she is no longer vaccinated because of a bad reaction as a very young baby (I stopped on time to save her life).. She lives with severe asthma as a result and daily reminder. Her younger sister, who has never been injected with anything, might have been more easily swayed, but my oldest stood for them both. I found out well after the fact. I also recently found out that they also tried to pressure my unjabbed househelp to take doses... after they forced their entire househelp staff to partake. That was effectively the end of my relationship with them... the girls still see them... but it will never be the same... they were like literally parents to me... I care about them still, but I can never forgive this massive breach of trust!
My older daughter had a terrible reaction as a baby to her hep B shot which I have written about on here before. I have given her a detailed timeline on that and we've had many in depth conversations about vaccines over the years. It's the best I can do to inform her as she is 17 and depending on where life takes her she could easily soon end up in a jab or else situation where the choice is hers alone. I've told her a life hack of sorts is to preemptively avoid going into orgs that take a hardline vaccine stance: this would include Peace Corps, jab happy Universities and the military. One saving grace is that both me and her father witnessed Jasmine's terrible reaction as a baby to her shots and were both in alignment on no vaccines and this was long before Covid was even on the scenes.
I can understand how that would be seen as a huge breach of trust. My experience is that people refuse to see the reality of jab injury and even death until it happens to them personally...
I sometimes wonder if the smartphone generation as a whole knows how to connect with others without those screens. A picture is worth 1000 words I suppose but it seems many have mistaken the images for reality. There was a lot commendable about Kuhn Oat: he seemed devoted to his girlfriend, cooked over an open fire, slaughtered and processed a duck, cleaned the dishes but all of that screen staring. It was a bit too quiet I suppose...
I think they are mesmerized by the sorcery of the screen. People are addicted to their cell phones.
Young people pass me on the freeway going 75 mph looking at their phones, as if it’s all just a video game to be played. Seems to me young people have lost how to connect to each other.
Love Andy Griffith, he’s the greatest salesman of all time. This is probably stupid but see if you can demand old school vaccines for Ka. DNA with attenuated viruses, etc. i would still take them if I knew that’s what they were. AND it was for a purpose. It’s the covid vax’s and anything moving forward that have me quite hesitant. I know some of the older ones are trouble too.
I think some of the people in the 1800’s used to cut themselves and slap the blood around all over one another??? LOOK not completely sure that is true lol. Thought I saw it on a “Hell on Wheels” episode. Maybe I’m not remembering correctly?
Lol ok don’t listen to shit I say. Tell Ka to take IVM and FenBen before taking anything. How bout that lol. Good luck guys!
I ordered IVm and a close analog to FenBen which are both in my suitcase. I think a detox will be in order even if they don't jab him. All the bloodwork and tests are stress enough. What is in those syringes? In a sane world wouldn't we know exactly? I don't even know if they'd be trying to push long expired Sinovac, long expired Pfizer or Moderna or AstraZeneca, or some new booster shot...
Re the sub-heading " One in Four People Think They Know Someone Who Died From the Jabs"
= = =
This is from yesterday's Rasmussen Reports Poll
> Nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, and even more say they might be willing to become plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 24% of American Adults say they know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Sixty-nine percent (69%) don’t know anyone who died from being vaccinated against the virus. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Forty-two percent (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit, including 24% who say it’s Very Likely they’d join such a lawsuit.
I wrote a post here last year explaining exactly how & why they will win this bio-weapon war on humans world-wide attack once again, like they won in 1918 Spanish-Flu, where 500K died in USA, and 50 million on earth and just like COVID-19 it all came from a mid-west USA MIL base;
Compared to "Spanish-Flu" the COV-19 deaths are microscopic, by 1919 everybody in USA knew somebody that had died, but it was illegal to mention the Spanish-Flu because there was a war going on, so unlike now it couldn't be discussed; By 1922 the MSM told the public to quit talking about "Spanish Flu' and it was never mentioned again.
One good book was written, but its very hard to find;
Today & then the GENOCIDE was orchestrated by the richest & most powerful people on earth;
It's a fairy tale to think that the little people have any power over the owners.
I have always been fascinated by ft-detrict and their deployment of HIV in the 1960's, have followed the entire history of HIV from early human leukemia in pigs to transferring it to monkeys by sexual transmission to its final release in africa on humans, where 25% of the entire continent was murdered by HIV 1985-1995; I remember traveling in Africa in mid 1990's and you would get a newspaper 2" thick and only the first page was 'news' all the rest was PAID obituarys, all young men
Not by homosexuality, just by care-free sex, not unusual for a man to have five fucks on the way home from work, when I was there it was 5 cents a fuck, or a quarter a guy could do five women before he got home with his 'wife', there were condom machines everywhere free, in all my travels I never saw a condom in a machine, they used them for 'bags' to hold seeds and coins :)
Later the HIV was dumped into a Haiti HOMO-SEXUAL gathering, where it made its way back to San-Francisco wiping out that community as well, and lots of famous people like "Queen"
HIV killed 100's of millions, way bigger than any pandemic bio-weapon
In early 1990's the USA flooded black citys with 'crack' leading to 100's of 1,000's of deaths, and today of course FENTANYL in the white&brown & black hoods
The only accurate book I have ever seen on the "spanish flu" which I studied long before COV19 was deployed
The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History Paperback – October 4, 2005
by John M. M. Barry (Author)
During COV years it was impossible to get this book, it still might be very hard; This book is essential to understanding how the US-GOV deploys bio-weapons and then covers up their operation
Like COV19 the span-flu was a world wide depopulation program by Rockefeller Foundation Eugenics planners
I’ll have to read it again. I have the original hard copy edition which I read, interestingly enough, on a trip to Hong Kong during the SARS outbreak/panic in 2004. While the book did a fine job chronicling the human carnage and societal panic, I seem to remember it mostly as a tribute to the birth of Rockefeller science and the nascent medical establishment.
I can't imagine facing what your facing, wrt the vaxxes....I cannot imagine being trusting of any jab. Ka's attitude is similar to my family's here in America, and my relatives in Canada. Hating your government is an acquired notion, slowly at first, then all at once. Praying for you from Oregon
Good luck 🍀🍀🍀❤️🐾🐾
😭🙏🌹
Make them sign a contract that if anything happens to Ka they are liable. Or scribble that in english on anything they make you sign sign and get a copy for yourself.
That's good idea I'm going to see what they say on the scheduling. See I paid for this medical exam and they claim that vaccines are not included in the price. I do not remember if that was true when Oh had his panel physician exam but I think it was worded differently back then. Somewhat obviously I am not going to pay for my husband to face the jab roulette. It's an interesting angle. They might bounce us back and force me to get a medical exempt before they'll see him. We'll see...
Would it be worth it to find copy of the one from Oh's time and compare the two? That might expose some difficult questions for them.
Good luck.
I wish I had saved all of the paperwork but the phone book is pretty darned thick on all of this by this point. That said is there a wayback machine digital screenshot way to get at this what they said in 2014 stuff? I know exactly what I would be looking for....
Possibly. Wayback doesn't save everything but they do save a lot of documents, although I don't know about Thai docs. You can sign up for Wayback and do a search.
US Embassy stuff should be in English, though when it comes to Thai documents that near requires speciaty. I've had time I was locked out of my own account, usually the result of good nephew's kindness and food versis
I think a Westerner threatening to cause embarrassment/loss of face and escalation to a higher authority is a very viable angle. Many Thais will go into "how do I make this go away ASAP" mode.
After much thought and prayer regarding this situation you summarized well the angle I am using. I have a bit of a bone to pick with the panel physician over my first husband and think I have an extremely strong case. I'm well aware that Thailand is a place where you can do everything as long as you don't talk about any of it. I think they're already using some lawfare on me in other contexts. The nurse is supposed to get back to me about Ka's exam appointment. I have reiterated that he is not vaccinated for Covid19 and that I don't think he should receive any vaccines, so I've already pulled the trigger on not trying to get some shady fake jab certificates on Telegram or something. It's their move next...
Sending positive thoughts!
“ I am not my husbands keeper” I know Amy but you best give him the Jesus sermon, too many people just approach this underestimating the lethal aspect and overestimating their own strength. God Bless !!!
"underestimating the lethal aspect and overestimating their own strength" is very quotable here. I spent years trying to detox Oh with his myriad health problems. I am not going to say that was the only thing that was going wrong there, because it wasn't, but it was like a negative feedback loop that ended in this dark spiral. I've seen how the iatrogenocide plays out over decades. I get how they did it. Even Jasmine says things sometimes which indicate to me that in the wrong back against a wall situations she might take the jabs and hope for the best. It's wrong on so many levels
My kids were indeed faced with that situation and just 10 and 13. Out "adopted" lolo and lola (parents of a long-term close friend), actually took them to a vaccination centre (they were in all the malls) to show them. Then told them they could get vaccinated, without telling mum, if they wanted. Lolo and Lola are their entire family are diehard believers, so far without very obvious poor outcomes.. though we are now past the 2 year mark for them.. and I wonder what comes next). My 13 yo told them you are not authorized to approve vaccination for us. We cant do this without our mum's approval. She knows she is no longer vaccinated because of a bad reaction as a very young baby (I stopped on time to save her life).. She lives with severe asthma as a result and daily reminder. Her younger sister, who has never been injected with anything, might have been more easily swayed, but my oldest stood for them both. I found out well after the fact. I also recently found out that they also tried to pressure my unjabbed househelp to take doses... after they forced their entire househelp staff to partake. That was effectively the end of my relationship with them... the girls still see them... but it will never be the same... they were like literally parents to me... I care about them still, but I can never forgive this massive breach of trust!
My older daughter had a terrible reaction as a baby to her hep B shot which I have written about on here before. I have given her a detailed timeline on that and we've had many in depth conversations about vaccines over the years. It's the best I can do to inform her as she is 17 and depending on where life takes her she could easily soon end up in a jab or else situation where the choice is hers alone. I've told her a life hack of sorts is to preemptively avoid going into orgs that take a hardline vaccine stance: this would include Peace Corps, jab happy Universities and the military. One saving grace is that both me and her father witnessed Jasmine's terrible reaction as a baby to her shots and were both in alignment on no vaccines and this was long before Covid was even on the scenes.
I can understand how that would be seen as a huge breach of trust. My experience is that people refuse to see the reality of jab injury and even death until it happens to them personally...
It was HepB for my daughter too, though I only realized the damage a few months later.
Fortunately God somehow tapped me on the shoulder and stopped me from letting her be given 2 month jabs (and started my research) ...
I'm glad they gave him a party, but what is it with the smartphones? The dumbest thing ever.
I sometimes wonder if the smartphone generation as a whole knows how to connect with others without those screens. A picture is worth 1000 words I suppose but it seems many have mistaken the images for reality. There was a lot commendable about Kuhn Oat: he seemed devoted to his girlfriend, cooked over an open fire, slaughtered and processed a duck, cleaned the dishes but all of that screen staring. It was a bit too quiet I suppose...
I think they are mesmerized by the sorcery of the screen. People are addicted to their cell phones.
Young people pass me on the freeway going 75 mph looking at their phones, as if it’s all just a video game to be played. Seems to me young people have lost how to connect to each other.
Amy, again, YOU ROCK!
Love Andy Griffith, he’s the greatest salesman of all time. This is probably stupid but see if you can demand old school vaccines for Ka. DNA with attenuated viruses, etc. i would still take them if I knew that’s what they were. AND it was for a purpose. It’s the covid vax’s and anything moving forward that have me quite hesitant. I know some of the older ones are trouble too.
I think some of the people in the 1800’s used to cut themselves and slap the blood around all over one another??? LOOK not completely sure that is true lol. Thought I saw it on a “Hell on Wheels” episode. Maybe I’m not remembering correctly?
Lol ok don’t listen to shit I say. Tell Ka to take IVM and FenBen before taking anything. How bout that lol. Good luck guys!
I ordered IVm and a close analog to FenBen which are both in my suitcase. I think a detox will be in order even if they don't jab him. All the bloodwork and tests are stress enough. What is in those syringes? In a sane world wouldn't we know exactly? I don't even know if they'd be trying to push long expired Sinovac, long expired Pfizer or Moderna or AstraZeneca, or some new booster shot...
Re the sub-heading " One in Four People Think They Know Someone Who Died From the Jabs"
= = =
This is from yesterday's Rasmussen Reports Poll
> Nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, and even more say they might be willing to become plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 24% of American Adults say they know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Sixty-nine percent (69%) don’t know anyone who died from being vaccinated against the virus. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Forty-two percent (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit, including 24% who say it’s Very Likely they’d join such a lawsuit.
Source: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/killer_jab_24_say_someone_they_know_died_from_covid_19_vaccine
NO amy they never lose
The system is rigged
Heads they win, tails you lose
I wrote a post here last year explaining exactly how & why they will win this bio-weapon war on humans world-wide attack once again, like they won in 1918 Spanish-Flu, where 500K died in USA, and 50 million on earth and just like COVID-19 it all came from a mid-west USA MIL base;
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/why-the-covid-battle-is-a-waste-of
Compared to "Spanish-Flu" the COV-19 deaths are microscopic, by 1919 everybody in USA knew somebody that had died, but it was illegal to mention the Spanish-Flu because there was a war going on, so unlike now it couldn't be discussed; By 1922 the MSM told the public to quit talking about "Spanish Flu' and it was never mentioned again.
One good book was written, but its very hard to find;
Today & then the GENOCIDE was orchestrated by the richest & most powerful people on earth;
It's a fairy tale to think that the little people have any power over the owners.
I have always been fascinated by ft-detrict and their deployment of HIV in the 1960's, have followed the entire history of HIV from early human leukemia in pigs to transferring it to monkeys by sexual transmission to its final release in africa on humans, where 25% of the entire continent was murdered by HIV 1985-1995; I remember traveling in Africa in mid 1990's and you would get a newspaper 2" thick and only the first page was 'news' all the rest was PAID obituarys, all young men
Not by homosexuality, just by care-free sex, not unusual for a man to have five fucks on the way home from work, when I was there it was 5 cents a fuck, or a quarter a guy could do five women before he got home with his 'wife', there were condom machines everywhere free, in all my travels I never saw a condom in a machine, they used them for 'bags' to hold seeds and coins :)
Later the HIV was dumped into a Haiti HOMO-SEXUAL gathering, where it made its way back to San-Francisco wiping out that community as well, and lots of famous people like "Queen"
HIV killed 100's of millions, way bigger than any pandemic bio-weapon
In early 1990's the USA flooded black citys with 'crack' leading to 100's of 1,000's of deaths, and today of course FENTANYL in the white&brown & black hoods
((THEY)) got away with HIV as well;
The only accurate book I have ever seen on the "spanish flu" which I studied long before COV19 was deployed
The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History Paperback – October 4, 2005
by John M. M. Barry (Author)
During COV years it was impossible to get this book, it still might be very hard; This book is essential to understanding how the US-GOV deploys bio-weapons and then covers up their operation
Like COV19 the span-flu was a world wide depopulation program by Rockefeller Foundation Eugenics planners
I’ll have to read it again. I have the original hard copy edition which I read, interestingly enough, on a trip to Hong Kong during the SARS outbreak/panic in 2004. While the book did a fine job chronicling the human carnage and societal panic, I seem to remember it mostly as a tribute to the birth of Rockefeller science and the nascent medical establishment.
Good to hear you are doing fine and fingers-crossed for Ka getting exempted for the jabs!
"But I can tell you that this was not the way a party for a young man going into the military looked in my day."
Nor was it the way Thais used to party. Sounds unusual.
Methinks the jabs took the life out of lots of people, I have observed it on my end too.
The manipulative coercion is evident at every turn. Screws in everyone’s brains and souls being turned constantly. Stay strong.
Awesome post documenting troubled times. Praying that you guys sail through these troubled waters mostly unscathed...