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TriTorch's avatar

There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that the global population numbers are nothing but lies, deception, and fabrications. It is highly unlikely that there are 8 billion people on this planet: https://old.bitchute.com/video/Q0KHQdiHkXcC [6:17mins]

According to the UN India has 1.4 billion people. The top 300 cities have a combined population of 200 million, that leaves 1.2 billion scattered around the rest of the countryside?

More likely: The eight billion figure is merely yet another cage, making us think that population is a problem in order to get us to funnel the remainder of our freedoms, wealth, property, & happiness to the top .01%.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I believe the population is overstated in many places, though I do not know by how much. Many places have small and mid sized cities that no one has ever heard of, like Toledo, Ohio with a population of 300,000 or so. On the other extreme there might be 400 illegals working in a single slaughterhouse who are all using the same social security number. People might be double counted in one place and not counted at all in another. But the depopulationists would have definitely wanted to tilt the numbers towards more/too many.

Even if you assume the eight billion number is true, the overpopulation narrative still doesn't work too well: the entire Earth population could fit into Australia, say, with each family being granted a 1/4 acre homestead with some common areas to spare. The only overpopulation I see is of elites who want to control the rest of us...

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TriTorch's avatar

I hear you Amy, but if you've taken a casual coast to coast flight over the USA and looked out the window 95% of it is barren. Is this true of India, China, Russia? I cannot say, it's certainly true of Australia.

So on the one hand we agree that even if 8 billion is true there's so much empty space it doesn't make any difference at all

But on the other, I do not believe almost anything that comes from any government agency or any NGO anywhere ever. Their incentive to lie catastrophically overwhelms any notions of reason or integrity, of which they never had any in the first place.

You say Toledo has 300k people. How can we be sure this is correct. Think about how many people that actually is. How many toilets, how much water, how much agriculture, how much electricity, how many truckloads of daily supplies, how many materials it would take to house them, think about all the aggregated energy, components, and human activity it would take to sustain such a high number of people in the modern world.

And when you're done contemplating that, think about 8 billion.

It's all ludicrous, but this overpopulation predatory deception is more valuable than gold to those who wish to put us under their thumb and stomp their boots on our faces for eternity.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I could try to come up with a formula of sorts for the true population of say Toledo, Ohio, growing up, simply because I lived there. It would be more about spitballing whether it was a blatant lie or at least a ballpark figure, though the best source might be the total house calculations and property tax receipts. The 300,000 number included the metro area. My high school was large with about 1400 students, but so were the other six public high schools in Toledo proper. Some on the suburbs say Sylvania were smaller and weird ones out in farm country like Otsego were much smaller. Plus there was the Catholic High school, the Jesuit Boys School and a few private ones. But back then there was no online homeschool option so virtually every 14 year old would be enrolled (with some dropouts by the end). I'd put the total around 13,000 high school students, a little lower than what statista claims is the share of 14-19 years olds in Ohio now (6.3%). But it's in the ballpark.

I think some places have better incentives to overcount than others. Ohio has surprisingly robust checks and balances so I doubt the number was too off. I can't say I have a clue what's going on say China or India or Nigeria though.with population counts...

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

TriTorch, I am replying here because I can’t find where or how to reply to your lengthy post that showed up in my email.

I am humbled by what you said, I vaguely recall our conversation that, IIRCC started out contentious (likely my fault, & I inconsistently try to do better), but nonetheless I am gratified that our conversation was spurred such deep reflection on your part and solid conviction.

I often wonder if I am doing more harm than good when I post, and indeed if I am just wasting my time.

I fear, no I know, that I too often am not serving my Lord well when I am posting here. Your post encouraged and convicted me at the same time. Thank you. Blessings. Keep it up; keep the Faith.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Bottom line is that they think that there are too many of us & exaggerate how many of us there are to keep us from having more babies.

The only logical response to that is to make more babies! It is fun, raising babies is the most exciting and exhausting thing you can do (you will never be bored or bothered by insomnia)and if you do it right, you won’t have enough money for them to acquire expensive tastes, and you will have grandchildren who you can spoil.

Teach your children/progeny to cook, see, garden, raise chickens (or whatever animal protein suits your location) and hunt & fish. Join a Bible believing church with a small group ministry or start one. Make friends who can help you do all this.

There are more of us than there are of them & we want to keep it that way!

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Phar Percheron's avatar

so basically, you are saying we can't know anything beyond what we can actually put our hands on in our own life... so any attempt to think about anything on a large scale, like building roads, or international trade, which is essential for me to have coffee by the way, is futile... ??

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TriTorch's avatar

“If the news is fake, just imagine how fake history is.”

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Dollyboy's avatar

The biggest lie is that if you go to school and get a good education and then get a job and start a family and buy a house that you will be happy.

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Phar Percheron's avatar

And a competing big lie is that if you do all those things you cannot be happy. Actually many people my age have been dissuaded from having families and Ieading a kind of normal life by some (okay actually massive amounts of) propaganda put out by Tavistock...

In fact, there are many of us who have been rendered incapable of fulfilling such an ideal by the partial destruction of our minds and bodies by the Rockefeller medical system.

We have been given the blueprint for cynical thinking, dismissing the value of mothers dedicated to raising their children and taking care of their families, and peer pressuring them into taking jobs in the paid Workforce...

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Dollyboy's avatar

I think a family and a stable home, children, a partner, really gives you a shot at happiness. It’s not the only way of course but it is satisfying. Where it all falls apart is what you need to do to get and keep those things. It’s not easy. And yeah, mothers in the workforce is a terrible idea - now the State can raise and educate our kids! What could possibly go wrong?

It’s a big let down though when you seemingly do all the “right” things and find an emptiness … it’s probably not the external material situation that is at fault but consumerism and social norms dictate the nuclear family as the way. It sux when you arrive there and it doesn’t work for you.

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J. Lee Austin, MD's avatar

I've been reading the internet for years and you are the first commenter I have come across that writes an ellipsis correctly! "emptiness ... it's probably"

Bravo!

~~ j ~~

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Dollyboy's avatar

Pretend I am stupid and explain it to me please. I think I know what you are saying.

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J. Lee Austin, MD's avatar

Ha ha you funny. One of my useless observations is that the ellipsis is the most incorrectly written bit of punctuation in all of English. In its correct form it is three periods with a single space on either side, like this ... so, it's a big deal to a grammar nerd when somebody actually gets it right ... such a rarity! 🤓

Best of luck,

~~ j ~~

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Dollyboy's avatar

Oh I feel that. Those spaces are essential. Now if I could only write better.

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Kat Bro's avatar

😹 amen. Some of the most miserable people I know did exactly that!!! I learned from them not to follow their lead.

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Bryan's avatar

I never commented, I don't think, but I love your posts... writings, and memes and just the fact your so like minded...it blows me away sometimes. Im fairly new to substack but for some strange reason bc don't believe very little in coincidences....I ithink its multiple reasons, like minded being one. I've always wanted to write something big and never did....in 2006 I wrote a poem that was chosen for a $25,000 prize and a printed published copy but I couldn't couldnt afford to go across country to attend. So I started a pretty good book and than my relationship and everything in my life began falling apart and my ex was spitefully keeping my baby boy away from me and than going to jail for 5 months waiting for a possible 20yr prison sentence, on probably about 95% or more fabricated charges. But once out I i Nowhere to live so I flew to Texas to live with my aunt and her 33° "super great and truly generous and friendly guy, a loveable"🙃 masonic husband🤔🧐 that forced me to finally start figuring out what the Fck is going because he bold face lied to me at his 33° ceromemony....it truly screwed with me, why did he lie to me and about me to his mason buddies, long story but it was pretty weird and I didn't have any clue, nothing about what masons were or were about until that night.......Now I feel that I know, nobody truly knows what loneliness can truly be.

Anyway I think could talk to you about so much shit , Ive had and now cannot say I have a pretty interesting life, "profile"? Maybe? Not good writer bc I idont know words I want use.

But anyway the biggest lie I was ever told was my 7th grade history class that I cannot remember exactly what it was but we were studying something back in the 1800s, one of the wars I think. I had a few small stacks of old books and advanced school text books and two different volumes of encyclopedias, old national geographics, and just all kinds of books handed down or given to me. We were told to study for some test, I think, and my old books contridicted what we were being indoctrinated to learn. Long story but I basically figured out a few other things or lies, didn't honestly know for sure if I figured out anything that was true, because I had a little bit of a rough childhood, I felt like I was always being lied to.....and now I know I was🙃, by everyone but I now know what I know so like I cant and won't be pissed at EVERYONE for not knowing we been DUMBED down .....bc it's its not completely their fault, my faults are contributed to their fault and theirs are to mine, right? Or does that not make sense!

Anyway too I hoped maybe you might consider this video about flat earth...IDK BUT I KNOW ITS NOT A BALL, that doesn't even make sense, And never did

Scientific Level Earth, Local Sun and Local Moon in 5 Minutes

https://old.bitchute.com/video/77CcqRyxXqgT/

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Phar Percheron's avatar

Bryan, these are your people here! go back in these posts find "the day tapes", the interview with Aaron Russo, and the movie "everything is a rich man's trick".

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/that-last-appearance-looks-like-tall

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consuelo's avatar

Yes, yes! Do that! Read the stack of Sage Hana. It's not easy but so worth the effort.

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Phar Percheron's avatar

thanks Consuelo. those three references changed my life. for the better! because knowing how the world works is always better than not knowing

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JSR's avatar

😂

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agnt RogerW, on Holy Night's avatar

It's an egg! But we cannot agree on which end goes up and which en goes down. Big end or Little end?

It's not flat (there are hills and valleys and ravines and many more things of volume) and it's not unlimited. But poets have a birth right to declare anything about this place, this life. I'm not anti-poets, but I am an anti-positivist. All errors stem from positivism, including this one.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I'm not in a position to know if Earth is flat either. It could be shaped like a tree or a spiral with ever expanding fractals. I'm not sure I believe there is a clear dividing line between the earth below and the sky above. Why aren't they interconnected?

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agnt RogerW, on Holy Night's avatar

oh, a spiral of fractals! that would be beautiful!

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DWB's avatar

Chemical Imbalance Theory was the biggest lie that has impacted me the most. They've changed it to "bad receptors" and "anxiety neurons" and things like that, but the goal continues to be to create denial about the lingering effects of crazy upbringing and thus turn people to Pharma for solutions.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

That's a good one! So many pharma drugs are based on theories which do not hold up to water. It's all just used to sell more drugs with the SSRI antidepressant meds especially harmful and useless for most.

That reminds me of something which started years ago with my older daughter. When she was about 12 or 13 she developed an extreme aversion to cameras: she taped over cameras on all of her devices, worried about being watched, and only would allow pictures of her to be taken or shared with permission and in limited circumstances. I thought she was ahead of her time in her thinking, but pre Pandemic this bucked the trend of the daily Instagram/Facebook selfies of her peers. My ex wanted her to see a therapist over this, which I was okay with as I think talk therapy can do a lot of good for many. But I was adamantly opposed to her being prescribed any crap to mess with her adolescent brain cells, least of all over a condition that I viewed as a healthy pushback to the hypersexualization of being a teenager.

The first three or four therapists were awful. She said they all tried to prescribe her some garbage often within five minutes of meeting her. It was the first line thing they did, with no consideration for her circumstances or anything she was going through. Eventually she was able to find a good therapist who listened to her, but the incentive structure was very clearly about getting her hooked on drugs. What a sad world...

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agnt RogerW, on Holy Night's avatar

Yep.

Many people have experienced the same.

A poison is a poison.

SSRIs have nothing to do with restoring physiology, but the opposite.

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consuelo's avatar

I agree. I had so much fear and anxiety after a heart attack a dozen or so years ago that I was persuaded to take Paxil and Xanax and was kept on them until 2 years ago but when I went off the Paxil I was so addicted to it that I was a mess. So I now take a different anti-depressant and keep trying to quit that but have not succeeded yet. I did have a crazy upbringing also. A crazy alcoholic father who hated us and threatened to kill us frequently and made some attempts.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

i picked overpopulation/scarcity because that lie has been with us the longest and has poisoned more minds than the other lies. ultimately it's a function of the biggest lie of alltime which is that God doesn't exist and therefore neither does our unlimitedly abundant universe.

how is Eliza doing?

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

So far so good with Eliza. She only missed one day of school over this and has a follow up check next week.

I’m not a big believer in the moon landing as it would have served the US government all too well to fake it with the race against Russia. That is not identical to believing in the ideas of planets and constellations though. Perhaps I’m just not into the technicals of how we would get there

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nymusicdaily's avatar

great, glad to hear!

you know about the van allen belt, right? soviets and then the us blew up nukes way up there in the late 1950s so it's way too radioactive for any human to pass through. bart sibrel has done the most heavy lifting on the nasa (not a space agency) hoax https://rumble.com/v1rzrsc-bart-sibrel.html

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dawnfrench's avatar

“ could the Earth be both flat and spherical, under perhaps the particle/wave observation theory?”

No. Particle/wave duality is just a misunderstanding of the mechanics.

Photons, particles of light, exist and travel, and they also spin, which causes the appearance of waves.

The reality is spinning particles. Real particles with mass and extension (they are not “point particles,” which is a contradiction in terms).

These flat earth proponents like to point out that water finds its level and this is proof of flat earth. It’s not correct.

Water is fluid and in bulk does fit to and fill its container.

But a single unit of water is the drop, which is spherical, it is compressed from all sides simultaneously (by traveling photons) just like all bodies, including the earth.

https://milesmathis.com/lighterrors.pdf

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Honeybee's avatar

Biggest lie? Making people feel powerless.

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JSR's avatar

🙌🏼

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Luke's avatar

Hi Amy and crew hope all is well. Great memes as always. 🥰

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DE's avatar

Central banking

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Stan Sylvester's avatar

The moon landing as best I can figure out never happened. NASA keeps getting $$$$$ to conduct "experiments." Pretty good gig.

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SAMO's avatar

What's the formula for arriving at 96?

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kapock's avatar

a + ab = c

What’s the formula that gives 40?

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agnt RogerW, on Holy Night's avatar

Here's the trick to reach 40.

The first column of numbers is 1, 2, 3, 8.

The second column of numbers is 4, 5, 6, 11.

The third column of numbers is 5, 12, 21, X.

But the difference between 12 and 5 is 7, which is 2 + 5; And the difference between 21 and 12 is 9 which is 6 + 3;

So, X = 40 comes from 8 + 11 + 21.

This method does not require brute force, which is to write down the 4 + 7 "equation" and the 5 + 8 and the 6 + 9 and the 7 + 10 equations, which are not given in the question.

I cannot put this into a neat formula, sorry!

I tend to go first to the method of arithmetic exhaustion, instead of using neat algebraic methods. I guess that's very common these days.

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SAMO's avatar

I saw this as simple pattern recognition problem -- and this is the pattern I see:

1 + 4 = 5

2 + 5 + 5 = 12

3 + 6 + 12 = 21

8 + 11 + 21 = 40

With each line, add the sum of the previous line to make the given sum true.

This is simply pattern recognition with the 4 lines we have been given.

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Honeybee's avatar

I saw the solution as you do, SAMO, and wrote the same under comments. Just logic...I'm horrible at math. I also feel Occam's Razor is a good guiding principle. Most people call them "elegant solutions." I've also been intrigued by an Indian teacher on YT who has kids come up to the blackboard and try to connect dots without overlapping or intersecting lines. "Thinking outside the box" might describe the successful answers. In today's world, thinking outside the box--being capable of expanding our imaginations--has become essential in actual fact.

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Emily Terrell's avatar

Maybe I’m just really weird but I saw a different pattern.

4x1 + 1 = 5

5x2 + 2 = 12

6x3 + 3 = 21

8x11 + 8 = 96

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dawnfrench's avatar

Poll: Something else.

With respect to the us federal income tax:

“income” is everything that comes in.

It cannot possibly be so.

https://dawnfrench.substack.com/p/excerpts-from-my-unsworn-declaration-9ca

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G Bobbi's avatar

That last number is “201”.

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Mark's avatar

Regarding FE , what is the purpose of so many lies and trick photography regarding the moon landings .

This scam alone has been raking in over $50 million / day for the past 50 years research the Japanese rail gun . Shooting a projectile level with the surface of the ocean for over 50 miles . Anything past 20 miles would be completely hidden .

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Derek's avatar

Another pattern might be, take the answer from the previous equation and add it to the left side of the equation tat follows. The first answer of 5 gets added to the second line, 5+2+5 = 12. In this way, 21+8+11 = 41.

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Ronnie Willie's avatar

Ultimately overpopulation, CO2 and jabs are inextricably linked from a depopulation perspective.

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