What a (sick) joke when you see the state of the US southern border. I have had similar misadventures in France, and also came to the conclusion several years ago that legal migration was not desired.
Legal immigration is not desired, because the state has nothing to hold over someone's head afterwards. An illegal crossing the Southern border will be processed through detention centers and need a sponsor who often facilitates sexual trafficking. Somebody whose visa status or passport is witheld can be forced to author papers about how safe and effective Covid vaccines are or just work for pimps just to get their freedom back. It's becoming a sick joke indeed...
Out of curiosity, is it technically possible to emigrate to the US without getting vaxxed? I assume Ka will not be getting any, considering what happened with Oh.
I'm always interested in separating what is legal and what is just pressure and manipulation. My sister in the UK is an antivaxxer mother, technically she is allowed to but the NHS regularly pressures (bullies would be more fitting) her and tries to shame her for it.
It's a conundrum I have right now. The US dropped the vax requirement for visitor's to the US (eg, tourist visa, students, temporary workers) in May, however on Ka's immigrant class of visa, a healthcare check is still required. On the healthcare check (which I am not allowed to be in the room for, as they are apparently screening for signs of sexual abuse and such too) ALL recommended jabs are strongly coerced. I say coerced because I was worried about Oh too, who kept meticulous medical records showing that he had TDAP not that long before and also he had told me verbally that he had measles as a child so I told him to tell the doctor that. Despite that he came out saying they gave him three vaccines, even though only two TDAP and MMR were listed in his medical record. He said the doctor was very friendly and very pretty and he smiled about it at the time. SO I am deeply concerned about what coercion tactics might be used on Ka in there, as I am sure they are very well trained at "countering vaccine hesitancy." I've heard there might be a way to exempt the medical check, which to me would be preferable, but the fee for that form is another $920 (last I checked). So for now I'm just thinking about the path forward with the least obstacles...
If he's legally allowed to refuse, a formal letter (in Thai and translated into English and stamped by a US embassy-approved translator) stating he is opposed to all vaccines might do it… but I understand your concern about coercion, and avoiding the checkup altogether might indeed be the safest option even if costly.
What an obstacle course… Best of luck to you both!
I have looked into the option, but it wasn't just a letter needed last I checked. He needed to go to a doctor and formally state his beliefs in person during examination, which the doc can then attest are firmly held religious convictions if they so desire. They are testing for other things there (eg tuberculosis, HIV, hepatitis) but it bothers me that only two Embassy approved doctors in Bangkok and one in Chiang Mai are even allowed to do this examination...
Nothing more frustrating than doing your every human trick to be cast to incompetent paper pushes that get paid by a government that makes it expensive, forever time consuming as the Mapquest says congratulations your here. Approved.
When millions of illegal aliens by cartels and pedophiles are shuffled across our USA borders to god knows where. Human Trafficking sponsored by the Biden crime family.
Hoping you get through the bureaucratic nightmare.
And 1776 Declaration of Independence
Quite certain our founders even our great grandparents who immigrated here would be
Horrified to learn just how our liberties have been
Limited.
4 Summers spent Celebrating the 4th of July in Acton Massachusetts. That forever left an inspirational impression that America 🇺🇸 was
To be Loved and admired.
This country is worth fighting for and our enemy
Is our own government and lackadaisical now vaxxinated, citizens.
Ohio, 4th of July!! Middle America. Salt of the Earth.
The only way out is through
With
Great Faith
Reverence
A dash of wild Spirited freedom loving
Defiance
That tyranny
“ Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered:
Yet we have this consolation with us,
The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph”.
Amen to the Thomas Paine quote. Ohio was always something on the 4th. Mostly we just got drunk and blew up a few thousand dollars worth of fireworks. One year a friend of ours shot off a canon (yes, a real one). Great memories of summer block parties and of course wishing my Father a Happy Birthday at midnight (happy birthday in Heaven Dad, as it is past midnight here so now July 5). The only way out is through indeed...God bless you have a great day...
A "Real Cannon" We went to 2 Army West Point games, and when they scored they would shoot off those cannons. Never had a neighbo who had a cannon tho. Drunk yes, and fireworks Yes and party yes. Awe Happy Birthday Dad indeed!! One of my old bosses was born same day, he always joked that the Celebration was for his birthday. God Bless Amy Thanks .....You too have a remarkable day. I sent a cowboy UP Poem...after reading your victories then 1 step forward 2 steps back ....uggggggh. GO Thomas Paine. See as a 5 year old I lived on Paul Revere Road, I was for all purposes Davey Crockett, Swamp Fox, and a Minute Man fighting the redcoats...still am :-)
I have god-parents that immigrated here the right way and the lack of control at the southern border deeply troubles them. America is still a great place depending on in which state and city you live in.
My 2 baht worth : I think you have mentioned that your husband had a "history" which included some seizures . If possible see a local doctor/hospital familiar with his history and ask for a record or acknowledgement of his condition. I would not pay the large fee to NOT see the doctor regarding his application. If Ka can do the healthcheck and say that he has a health issue, and will not risk getting a vax ( adamently but politely regarding the covid one ) ..... that might work.
Given the harsh bias of the govts..... i suggest that he does not go into trying to tell them of the dangers. IMO that would be a mistake . Of course, if its VAX or no visa .....hmmmm.... only your decision of course. not much freedom of choice then .
I tried originally to get Kas health records in early 2020 as I was trying to make an emergency petition for him to come to the US with me, on the basis that nobody with his condition should live alone. The US Embassy kept on pulling for more information the prescriptions and most recent doctors report would not work-that was when he fell off the motorbike with a seizure and a friend found him and took him in in September. The seizure was done by then he was released the next morning. He didn't go to hospitals for them they passed too fast. So they wanted the original brain scan from like 2004. It was ultimately denied even though everyone in his family knew about it for years. There's a clinic in Koh En that might have some records...hmmm
Are you referring to the film, “Sound of Freedom’ about human and child trafficking, that opened yesterday on July 3 here in The States? It stars Jim Caviezel, who portrays Tim Ballard, a DHS ‘agent’ assigned to bust consumers of ‘child pornography’ and Mira Sorvino who plays Ballard’s wife, Katherine. (I only found “A Call for Freedom” film that was a documentary done in 2017.)
Good luck with the process, Amy . Nothing is getting easier .
No it is not. It's like they're egging on catastrophic collapse at this point...
Great article. Good luck with your Visa issues. And thanks for sharing a Lily bit. Happy 4th to you and yours.
To you as well!
Good post. Congrats on the milestone for your husband's visa!
Thanks! Still don't know what to do with it but tomorrow is a business day I suppose...
So much truth!
“The illusion of freedom serves as one of the most potent shackles of servitude.”
The hurdles (shackles) are everywhere…
I have made a call to all the gods in heaven... or wherever they are hanging out now.
I want to strongly suggest that we go back a few hundred years and start all over again .
I have been put on hold .................... i think thats the star fangled banner playing in the background.
What a (sick) joke when you see the state of the US southern border. I have had similar misadventures in France, and also came to the conclusion several years ago that legal migration was not desired.
Legal immigration is not desired, because the state has nothing to hold over someone's head afterwards. An illegal crossing the Southern border will be processed through detention centers and need a sponsor who often facilitates sexual trafficking. Somebody whose visa status or passport is witheld can be forced to author papers about how safe and effective Covid vaccines are or just work for pimps just to get their freedom back. It's becoming a sick joke indeed...
You've summed it up pretty well.
Out of curiosity, is it technically possible to emigrate to the US without getting vaxxed? I assume Ka will not be getting any, considering what happened with Oh.
I'm always interested in separating what is legal and what is just pressure and manipulation. My sister in the UK is an antivaxxer mother, technically she is allowed to but the NHS regularly pressures (bullies would be more fitting) her and tries to shame her for it.
It's a conundrum I have right now. The US dropped the vax requirement for visitor's to the US (eg, tourist visa, students, temporary workers) in May, however on Ka's immigrant class of visa, a healthcare check is still required. On the healthcare check (which I am not allowed to be in the room for, as they are apparently screening for signs of sexual abuse and such too) ALL recommended jabs are strongly coerced. I say coerced because I was worried about Oh too, who kept meticulous medical records showing that he had TDAP not that long before and also he had told me verbally that he had measles as a child so I told him to tell the doctor that. Despite that he came out saying they gave him three vaccines, even though only two TDAP and MMR were listed in his medical record. He said the doctor was very friendly and very pretty and he smiled about it at the time. SO I am deeply concerned about what coercion tactics might be used on Ka in there, as I am sure they are very well trained at "countering vaccine hesitancy." I've heard there might be a way to exempt the medical check, which to me would be preferable, but the fee for that form is another $920 (last I checked). So for now I'm just thinking about the path forward with the least obstacles...
If he's legally allowed to refuse, a formal letter (in Thai and translated into English and stamped by a US embassy-approved translator) stating he is opposed to all vaccines might do it… but I understand your concern about coercion, and avoiding the checkup altogether might indeed be the safest option even if costly.
What an obstacle course… Best of luck to you both!
I have looked into the option, but it wasn't just a letter needed last I checked. He needed to go to a doctor and formally state his beliefs in person during examination, which the doc can then attest are firmly held religious convictions if they so desire. They are testing for other things there (eg tuberculosis, HIV, hepatitis) but it bothers me that only two Embassy approved doctors in Bangkok and one in Chiang Mai are even allowed to do this examination...
Right, I see… Strange indeed that only three doctors in the country are allowed to do it.
Nothing more frustrating than doing your every human trick to be cast to incompetent paper pushes that get paid by a government that makes it expensive, forever time consuming as the Mapquest says congratulations your here. Approved.
When millions of illegal aliens by cartels and pedophiles are shuffled across our USA borders to god knows where. Human Trafficking sponsored by the Biden crime family.
Hoping you get through the bureaucratic nightmare.
And 1776 Declaration of Independence
Quite certain our founders even our great grandparents who immigrated here would be
Horrified to learn just how our liberties have been
Limited.
4 Summers spent Celebrating the 4th of July in Acton Massachusetts. That forever left an inspirational impression that America 🇺🇸 was
To be Loved and admired.
This country is worth fighting for and our enemy
Is our own government and lackadaisical now vaxxinated, citizens.
Ohio, 4th of July!! Middle America. Salt of the Earth.
The only way out is through
With
Great Faith
Reverence
A dash of wild Spirited freedom loving
Defiance
That tyranny
“ Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered:
Yet we have this consolation with us,
The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph”.
Thomas Paine December 1776
Amen to the Thomas Paine quote. Ohio was always something on the 4th. Mostly we just got drunk and blew up a few thousand dollars worth of fireworks. One year a friend of ours shot off a canon (yes, a real one). Great memories of summer block parties and of course wishing my Father a Happy Birthday at midnight (happy birthday in Heaven Dad, as it is past midnight here so now July 5). The only way out is through indeed...God bless you have a great day...
A "Real Cannon" We went to 2 Army West Point games, and when they scored they would shoot off those cannons. Never had a neighbo who had a cannon tho. Drunk yes, and fireworks Yes and party yes. Awe Happy Birthday Dad indeed!! One of my old bosses was born same day, he always joked that the Celebration was for his birthday. God Bless Amy Thanks .....You too have a remarkable day. I sent a cowboy UP Poem...after reading your victories then 1 step forward 2 steps back ....uggggggh. GO Thomas Paine. See as a 5 year old I lived on Paul Revere Road, I was for all purposes Davey Crockett, Swamp Fox, and a Minute Man fighting the redcoats...still am :-)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRtvqT_wMeY&list=RDMM&index=7
You mentioned that movie (pedophiles)
...maybe you know this song.
BTW I used to visit Columbus, Ohio for 7 years. Company headquarters there.
Where we were damn flat. Driver got sick. I said I could and got lost, before cell phones.
Damn, we are lost.
2 friends from Toledo, they have that certain accent.
Best of luck/keeping charging forward.
I have god-parents that immigrated here the right way and the lack of control at the southern border deeply troubles them. America is still a great place depending on in which state and city you live in.
Amy:
I came across this site recently. It's education on a level I've never imagined. I think you'll enjoy it...
http://thesovereignsway.com and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkNTVbPfwE
Maybe it can help you in the future...
I'll check it out thanks!
My 2 baht worth : I think you have mentioned that your husband had a "history" which included some seizures . If possible see a local doctor/hospital familiar with his history and ask for a record or acknowledgement of his condition. I would not pay the large fee to NOT see the doctor regarding his application. If Ka can do the healthcheck and say that he has a health issue, and will not risk getting a vax ( adamently but politely regarding the covid one ) ..... that might work.
Given the harsh bias of the govts..... i suggest that he does not go into trying to tell them of the dangers. IMO that would be a mistake . Of course, if its VAX or no visa .....hmmmm.... only your decision of course. not much freedom of choice then .
I tried originally to get Kas health records in early 2020 as I was trying to make an emergency petition for him to come to the US with me, on the basis that nobody with his condition should live alone. The US Embassy kept on pulling for more information the prescriptions and most recent doctors report would not work-that was when he fell off the motorbike with a seizure and a friend found him and took him in in September. The seizure was done by then he was released the next morning. He didn't go to hospitals for them they passed too fast. So they wanted the original brain scan from like 2004. It was ultimately denied even though everyone in his family knew about it for years. There's a clinic in Koh En that might have some records...hmmm
2004 ..... long time ago. But worth giving them a call . and yes... "not accepting things" is what they do best !
Are you referring to the film, “Sound of Freedom’ about human and child trafficking, that opened yesterday on July 3 here in The States? It stars Jim Caviezel, who portrays Tim Ballard, a DHS ‘agent’ assigned to bust consumers of ‘child pornography’ and Mira Sorvino who plays Ballard’s wife, Katherine. (I only found “A Call for Freedom” film that was a documentary done in 2017.)
https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/sound-of-freedom-review-jim-caviezel-1235660035/
That's it! Apologies about the typo it is not available here in Thailand and I still have limited Internet...I will change it accordingly...
I live in CA but am up in Idaho and going to see it tomorrow!
what a pathetic state of affairs.
another worthy contribution…
https://kitten.substack.com/p/j6?publication_id=562279&isFreemail=false
(note the Substack “false” fact check)