Blogger El Gato Malo just published a Substack article on the OHIO derailment disaster, basically claiming that such accidents are very common (3 derailments DAILY in the US), and also that 'real' experts state that the mitigation measures taken were the correct ones and that there is no need for panic/hysteria.
Obviously - and rightfully so - he got much backlash on that article in the comments it generated.
In response to some of the comments he provided some additional data.
"Some more useful stats per federal railroad admin:
in 2022 in US: 1163 train derailments of which 292 had hazmat cars, 137 had damaged hazmat cars, and 10 released hazmats of which 4 led to evacuations
2021 was very similar."
So while East Palestine might not be the US equivalent of Chernobyl, it most certainly is an environmental disaster of enormous proportions and down-playing it (like his article did) is simply WRONG.
I think it raises broader questions about regulatory capture and profit incentives punching down at the poor for the benefit of the rich. It also raises questions of whether an even bigger one is just around the corner or if authorities have just learned very well how to minimize damage and payouts over time...
I think it also raises the question as to who el gato malo is really working for. Not the first time I catch that particular individual downplaying something that does not urgently needs downplaying.
I'm seeing more and more of the downplaying game on Substack. Very peculiar.
El gato is data driven at a very big picture level so I tend to think he's getting drawn into his own ego trap more than any bad intent, but that's only my perspective. I noticed bad cat did the same with the food processing fires saying the numbers weren't out of whack, nobody is trying to kill us, it's just more of the same with hysteria added in. Even if true isn't the issue something that we should try to fix? It's a little like saying the murder rate hasn't climbed so we shouldn't bother investigating individual murders
That's the whole problem. If you (meaning "they", some substackers) spend enough time to "mitigate" this and that, it starts more and more to sound like "nobody is trying to kill us, after all". The idea of "shit happens all the time, there's nothing to it" plus "it was just bad luck/clumsiness" starts to seep into the debate. Wouldn't you know, this looks more and more like what the mainstream - and I mean Birx-type mainstream - echo chamber has been trying to convey for a while now. Little or no apology whatsoever on their part, not even "we'll be more careful next time". Just "expect more of the same", or worse. Just "all good, give us fucking amnesty, let's move on". So one one side, we have more and more on the alt-covid watering down their grievances while the covidians are watering down their responsibilities. A good ploy to keep the status quo and the same team of bastards in control. This is what we deserve, right? It was not malevolence, just incompetence, so everything is dandy. What a wonderful way to start the "year of accountability"...
Like I wrote in a comment to Sasha's article (answering someone who was trying to whitewash Trump), I'm not buying the "either incompetent or malevolent" binary. Incompetence is *not* an excuse. Anyone who's incompetent and still hold his/her position of power, that makes him/her malevolent.
Making people who want to delve deeper into the matter look like hysterical, paranoid ignorants who don't see the big picture is nothing short of a ploy. Desmet, amongst others, is very good at taking people down the path then derailing (sorry) them before getting into the rabbit hole - nothing to see here. I think he and the likes are building up on the fact that a good number of people are now tired of waking up each morning in a world that wants to kill or enslave them, enough so that they will buy the first theory that wraps the whole thing up without any hard work involved.
This is an attempt at "normalization". Like you said, it's like saying we should not investigate the background issues when it is *exactly* what needs to be done. For instance, now would be the time to go back to some really strange past coïncidences - Seveso, Chernobyl and the likes - which were or were not their own "experiments" at the time - I for one think the former. *That* is the actual big picture level: intent.
He has no idea what this means. He has no idea how raw people feel about this. He is clueless to the symbol of it. He sounds like he has gotten quite full of himself and his discernment.
With both him and Doomer I had to play the devil's advocate on their articles: if I was an advertising exec at Norfolk Southern who wanted to pay the least damages and make this go away as quickly as possible, or if I was an EPA official trying to cover my own ass, I would arrange exactly the hysteria that suddenly appeared out of nowhere. Now train wrecks and chemical spills happen all of the time here there's nothing to see at all regarding this East Palestine disaster. I find it a little odd that people who are so quick to call BS from CDC and FDA announcements somehow think that the EPA and FEMA are beyond similar scrutiny...surely those corporations and those government officials would never try to cover up dangers...
But it isn't hysteria I am feeling, it is something like controlled fury. His devils advocate came off as dismissive, sounding to me pretty much like the bootiegag etc gov line, nothing to see here, it's not really a problem. But after covid, after refusing to acknowledge those damaged and killed by the double bioweapon covid op, this is just more of that psychopathy. If people die, if their quality of life is ruined, I fully expect the gov/media to deny it. No one is taking responsibility and no one is being held accountable. Borigato could play devils advocate without being dismissive about that.
Amy - Mercola recommends nattokinase. Brucha swears by lumbrokinase. i do pine needle tea but i'm not surrounded by shedders in close quarters, at least beyond public spaces
for further research, Dr, Ana has been on top of this since 2021:
I linked to the Rumble video with Dr. Ana. I was drinking pine needle tea in fact a lot of tea of all types but have fallen out of it a bit. I had heard that the train was on fire for a long time. It doesn't make sense that they would want this public relations problem but it could be.
My brother and his family is in Ohio (Toledo). Now that's around 200 miles West and the jet stream would normally carry the winds Northeast out of East Palestine but he had not even heard about the accident as of three days ago. He had no idea.
I've heard that pill bugs aka rolly polly bugs can absorb metals, radiation and contaminants in soil. But they can't even start until testing determines the scope of the problem there...
It is challenging for me to accept coincidence in situations like this but think about all the crazy things that have happened in the last 2 weeks world wide. People I work with had no idea there was a train derailment with a chemical cloud viewable above the cloud layer or that 30k people died in earthquakes in Turkey and Syria as recent at Tuesday. TPTB are cleaning up search engines and even the Wayback Machine faster than you can download content.
I read a bit about that one this morning. In this case I even know somebody that lives in Van Buren Township or used to anyways. I should message her. This one is hopefully not as large and concerning...
It is called "zeolite". This mineral detoxified organic farms right next to Fukishima. It has MANY uses for toxic and even radioactive spills. A good supplement as well. Cheap. You can buy huge bags of it for farming.
I really recommend following medical medium's advice. Pine needle tea does nothing but thyme tea does kill pathogens. So much of the detox info is incorrect. Charcoal is harmful taken internally. Metals can be safely detoxed with the MM heavy metal detox smoothy. Alkaline water is also not beneficial.
As bad as this derailment has been, and it is bad, it may not be the environmental disaster that it's being made out to be. You are right, certainly, to identify safety concerns on the railroads as the number one issue in this and many other rail accidents, and we likely can expect more in the future.
Blogger El Gato Malo just published a Substack article on the OHIO derailment disaster, basically claiming that such accidents are very common (3 derailments DAILY in the US), and also that 'real' experts state that the mitigation measures taken were the correct ones and that there is no need for panic/hysteria.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/train-crashes-and-base-rate-fallacies
Obviously - and rightfully so - he got much backlash on that article in the comments it generated.
In response to some of the comments he provided some additional data.
"Some more useful stats per federal railroad admin:
in 2022 in US: 1163 train derailments of which 292 had hazmat cars, 137 had damaged hazmat cars, and 10 released hazmats of which 4 led to evacuations
2021 was very similar."
So while East Palestine might not be the US equivalent of Chernobyl, it most certainly is an environmental disaster of enormous proportions and down-playing it (like his article did) is simply WRONG.
I think it raises broader questions about regulatory capture and profit incentives punching down at the poor for the benefit of the rich. It also raises questions of whether an even bigger one is just around the corner or if authorities have just learned very well how to minimize damage and payouts over time...
I think it also raises the question as to who el gato malo is really working for. Not the first time I catch that particular individual downplaying something that does not urgently needs downplaying.
I'm seeing more and more of the downplaying game on Substack. Very peculiar.
El gato is data driven at a very big picture level so I tend to think he's getting drawn into his own ego trap more than any bad intent, but that's only my perspective. I noticed bad cat did the same with the food processing fires saying the numbers weren't out of whack, nobody is trying to kill us, it's just more of the same with hysteria added in. Even if true isn't the issue something that we should try to fix? It's a little like saying the murder rate hasn't climbed so we shouldn't bother investigating individual murders
That's the whole problem. If you (meaning "they", some substackers) spend enough time to "mitigate" this and that, it starts more and more to sound like "nobody is trying to kill us, after all". The idea of "shit happens all the time, there's nothing to it" plus "it was just bad luck/clumsiness" starts to seep into the debate. Wouldn't you know, this looks more and more like what the mainstream - and I mean Birx-type mainstream - echo chamber has been trying to convey for a while now. Little or no apology whatsoever on their part, not even "we'll be more careful next time". Just "expect more of the same", or worse. Just "all good, give us fucking amnesty, let's move on". So one one side, we have more and more on the alt-covid watering down their grievances while the covidians are watering down their responsibilities. A good ploy to keep the status quo and the same team of bastards in control. This is what we deserve, right? It was not malevolence, just incompetence, so everything is dandy. What a wonderful way to start the "year of accountability"...
Like I wrote in a comment to Sasha's article (answering someone who was trying to whitewash Trump), I'm not buying the "either incompetent or malevolent" binary. Incompetence is *not* an excuse. Anyone who's incompetent and still hold his/her position of power, that makes him/her malevolent.
Making people who want to delve deeper into the matter look like hysterical, paranoid ignorants who don't see the big picture is nothing short of a ploy. Desmet, amongst others, is very good at taking people down the path then derailing (sorry) them before getting into the rabbit hole - nothing to see here. I think he and the likes are building up on the fact that a good number of people are now tired of waking up each morning in a world that wants to kill or enslave them, enough so that they will buy the first theory that wraps the whole thing up without any hard work involved.
This is an attempt at "normalization". Like you said, it's like saying we should not investigate the background issues when it is *exactly* what needs to be done. For instance, now would be the time to go back to some really strange past coïncidences - Seveso, Chernobyl and the likes - which were or were not their own "experiments" at the time - I for one think the former. *That* is the actual big picture level: intent.
Most of our nuclear facilities are well past their original pull dates....
He has no idea what this means. He has no idea how raw people feel about this. He is clueless to the symbol of it. He sounds like he has gotten quite full of himself and his discernment.
With both him and Doomer I had to play the devil's advocate on their articles: if I was an advertising exec at Norfolk Southern who wanted to pay the least damages and make this go away as quickly as possible, or if I was an EPA official trying to cover my own ass, I would arrange exactly the hysteria that suddenly appeared out of nowhere. Now train wrecks and chemical spills happen all of the time here there's nothing to see at all regarding this East Palestine disaster. I find it a little odd that people who are so quick to call BS from CDC and FDA announcements somehow think that the EPA and FEMA are beyond similar scrutiny...surely those corporations and those government officials would never try to cover up dangers...
But it isn't hysteria I am feeling, it is something like controlled fury. His devils advocate came off as dismissive, sounding to me pretty much like the bootiegag etc gov line, nothing to see here, it's not really a problem. But after covid, after refusing to acknowledge those damaged and killed by the double bioweapon covid op, this is just more of that psychopathy. If people die, if their quality of life is ruined, I fully expect the gov/media to deny it. No one is taking responsibility and no one is being held accountable. Borigato could play devils advocate without being dismissive about that.
Amy - Mercola recommends nattokinase. Brucha swears by lumbrokinase. i do pine needle tea but i'm not surrounded by shedders in close quarters, at least beyond public spaces
for further research, Dr, Ana has been on top of this since 2021:
https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/dissolving-the-c19-technological
https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/p/therapeutics-for-long-covid
https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/p/therapeutic-properties-of-berberine
from walter chesnut https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/friday-hope-and-happiest-of-holidays
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/dr-ariyana-love
we know the train was on fire - set fire? - miles before it hit e palestine. maybe so it could go off the rails in deep red territory?
warner mendenhall is in akron. will have plenty of clients from further south if he wants them
glad you and the girls are not in ohio now
I linked to the Rumble video with Dr. Ana. I was drinking pine needle tea in fact a lot of tea of all types but have fallen out of it a bit. I had heard that the train was on fire for a long time. It doesn't make sense that they would want this public relations problem but it could be.
My brother and his family is in Ohio (Toledo). Now that's around 200 miles West and the jet stream would normally carry the winds Northeast out of East Palestine but he had not even heard about the accident as of three days ago. He had no idea.
I've heard that pill bugs aka rolly polly bugs can absorb metals, radiation and contaminants in soil. But they can't even start until testing determines the scope of the problem there...
Monast's name got me wondering, in conjunction with your question.
I am not sure how one safely segregates themselves....mentally if not physically. To remain intact.
monastic mə-năs′tĭk adjective
Of, relating to, or characteristic of a monastery. Used often of monks and nuns.
Resembling life in a monastery in style, structure, or manner, especially.
Secluded and contemplative.
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monastery mŏn′ə-stĕr″ē noun
A community of persons, especially monks, bound by vows to a religious life and often living in partial or complete seclusion.
The dwelling place of such a community.
It is challenging for me to accept coincidence in situations like this but think about all the crazy things that have happened in the last 2 weeks world wide. People I work with had no idea there was a train derailment with a chemical cloud viewable above the cloud layer or that 30k people died in earthquakes in Turkey and Syria as recent at Tuesday. TPTB are cleaning up search engines and even the Wayback Machine faster than you can download content.
Yet another train derailment carrying hazardous materials just reported near Van Buren Township, just outside Detroit, Michigan:
https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/16/discuss-so-whats-with-the-chemical-spills/
I read a bit about that one this morning. In this case I even know somebody that lives in Van Buren Township or used to anyways. I should message her. This one is hopefully not as large and concerning...
It is called "zeolite". This mineral detoxified organic farms right next to Fukishima. It has MANY uses for toxic and even radioactive spills. A good supplement as well. Cheap. You can buy huge bags of it for farming.
"East Palestine" will become a battle cry for decades....
Chaga NAC and Vitamin C D and Zinc boom big cleanse from the shedding
Great article. how much is ones health worth?
The New economy....
I really recommend following medical medium's advice. Pine needle tea does nothing but thyme tea does kill pathogens. So much of the detox info is incorrect. Charcoal is harmful taken internally. Metals can be safely detoxed with the MM heavy metal detox smoothy. Alkaline water is also not beneficial.
Hi Amy,
Cliff High wrote a substack titled First Aid for OHIO, addressing immediate First Aid for toxic chemical bomb.
https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/first-aid-for-ohio?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
He recommends Chaga tea, active carbon (activated charchoal) and Iodine.
The comments he received contain several other recommendations for de-toxing after Vinyl chloride exposure.
As bad as this derailment has been, and it is bad, it may not be the environmental disaster that it's being made out to be. You are right, certainly, to identify safety concerns on the railroads as the number one issue in this and many other rail accidents, and we likely can expect more in the future.
https://doomberg.substack.com/p/railroaded?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=343139&post_id=103320391&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
charcoal is a strong detox agent
Activated charcoal is medicine.
Charcoal is for barbecue. ;)