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Mrs S's avatar

Bloody hell, Amy.

Did you ever read Franz Kafka's The Castle? It's exactly like this - a bureaucratic nightmare.

What you really need is to be able to bribe one of the nurses.

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BlueSphinx's avatar

Yes, considering the consequences of not having the 'jab certificate' the easiest road would be to bribe the nurse that has to administer the shot. Just secretly hand her 1.000,- TB if she seems willing (if she does not give it back immediately you will know) and tell her that you will pay another 4.000,- THB is she simply injects the shot in the waste-bin instead of Ka's arm.

Crazy times and Kafkaesque regulations require out-of-the-box actions and standing your ground.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

True on that but they apparently still need a "jab certificate" of a Covid vaccine, any one anywhere anyhow, to even schedule the exam. It seemed like there was a more sympathetic nurse over the weekend who mentioned that we could come in Saturday night but we could not do it because we could not pick up his passport (needed for this exam aas records are apparently immediately linked) until Monday...

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BlueSphinx's avatar

It looks like that was an 'open invitation' by that more sympathetic nurse, to help you out on Saturday night (with low staff attendance at the hospital). As Ka has his passport now, maybe next Saturday would be an option. As the jab is done in a private room, nobody will know whether the nurse actually injected it or wasted it, and she could 'tick the box' that the killer-jab was administered...

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Aoratos's avatar

Agree on that, BlueSphinx. I went down that path in France. The system is screwed, money talks. 5,000 THB is a big enough amount to tempt them, lots of them are in debt.

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Mrs S's avatar

Could you make a fake certificate? If the insanity went on...like if they were going to stop me from going in shops and pubs, buying a fake jab card was going to be my next move.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Hey, now that's a good idea. Probably better results than paying a lawyer.

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DWB's avatar

Thailand has a vaccine culture. When my wife goes to the free clinic in Bangkok, they are always trying to push vaccines on her. Influenza, Covid, etc. The weirdest obsession is TDAP. I've heard more about that vaccine in the past year than in my whole life.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

If you can make it into Mexico, then just cross in CA by making sure to check in with "border security." Pretend neither of you have ANY documents, and that you can barely speak any English. Give them fake names. This way, they will give you a court date 5 or 6 years into the future, a bus ticket to somewhere you want to go, a free phone, a debit card for food and other expenses, AND you'll qualify for free housing instantly (with priority over ALL American citizens;-). Oh, and you'll get 3 or $4K per month is social security benefits BECAUSE your status is "undocumented illegal alien" AND you'll be allowed to vote under the fake names, (although they will NOT count the votes of American citizens;-)

Vets, American families, and single moms, are now being shoved out of their low cost housing so that all illegal aliens are guaranteed a free place to live. PLUS undocumented illegal aliens don't have to be vaccinated. In fact, even with clear symptoms of serious communicable diseases, tuberculosis, leprosy, etc., no illegal alien will be denied entry under any circumstance. Even being on a "terror watch list" is not going to prevent an illegal alien from getting in;-) It's a FREE FOR ALL at the border.

Once you're here, you can do whatever you want. Drop the assumed illegal alien identities, or keep them for the benefits while also re-establishing yourselves under your real names.

Not a bad idea actually. Like seriously.

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Amy Harlib's avatar

Wow - love your artwork! Praying you can clear up this medical exam hassle. Greasing palms seems to be the answer!

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BlueSphinx's avatar

Hi, I am the proud and grateful recipient of multi-talented Amy's Blue Whales painting.

I am going to frame it and give it a place of honor in my living- or study-room.

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misterkel's avatar

Do a self-exemption from vaccines. Simply put in the fine print that it is a self exemption, then it is not fraud. Odds are the Ding dogs at security will accept it without comment.

Or not even ask for it.

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Edwin's avatar

Like I said, when there is a will there's a way, greased palms it is.

Good luck.

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Kyle Young's avatar

Bidens "gap" in the border wall at Yuma Arizona is being used by the world. The problem is dodging the human trafficking cartels, the bandits and all the other obstacles to get there (I'm not far from there). Ka can pass as Latino, but you would be a target because you are a white woman. He and you would be better off if he went by himself.

I agree with some of the others here. Bribery may be the easiest solution.

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Rico Swavay's avatar

I'm sure you can find a doctor and grease his palm a bit to get the physical done.

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Rico Swavay's avatar

I live in the Philippines where money talks and bullshit walks. I had an issue during covid when my tourist visa was going to expire and they weren't issuing anything. A chef friend of mine hooked me up with a fixer. It cost me, but I got a 2 year visa. I'm on a 3 year visa now. All is good.

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misterkel's avatar

Here is an exemption form that looks official.

Fill it out and take it to the hospital for the physical.

Most of the time, all they need is a f'ing piece of paper to protect themselves. If you have something official looking to stick in their (**) er... file, they will likely be happy.

https://www.promic.info/exemption-forms#self

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

Thank you for that one. Thais are all about official documentation that checks some box for them so the exemption route is the one I am going to fall back on. I'm a terrible liar to the point where I just don't and as much fun as navigating down Mexico way sounds I'd rather not. The shortest path is likely the one I'm currently on...

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misterkel's avatar

Fair enough, but remember, you AREN'T lying. You are self exempting. If they ask, tell them so. Don't lie.

You have that right.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Damn Amy, pure INSANITY!

I suggest that you pray. Prayer creates miracles. In God/Creator’s world, there are NO limits. The impossible and difficult become easy. I’m not trying to be corny, prayer simply works. May God guide you and Ka!

The whale painting is precious. I see whales quite often where I live.

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Diana's avatar

This is such a powerful post. I loved the whale painting. It reminded me of the NetFlix TV series, "The Incredible Attorney Woo," a Korean drama featuring and gifted but autistic attorney who is obsessed with whales. Whales provide her with her attachment, and at every moment she thinks of them. Her friends often interrupt her and tell her not to talk about them--but she can't help it. I'm the same way with vaccines. Everything that happens reminds me of some vaccine issue. My friends have warned me, though. Talk about vaccines--and they will cancel me! They are permanently safe due to the jabs so don't dare mention anything about them. Even my psychotherapist tells me we cannot discuss vaccines--even though they upset me. Evidently my feelings only count when they are about my family of origin. I weakly protest that vaccines do remind me of my family's abuse/neglect. But it seems they are in a special category where only facts matter. And vaccine dangers are not facts.

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Rico Swavay's avatar

So, the US Embassy requested a physical exam for your husband???

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

Correct. Which apparently can't be done without Covid jabs...

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Diana's avatar

Catch 22--or Catch Covid-19!

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Faith's avatar

The U.N. is transporting thousands of Unvaccinated "immigrants" per day into South America or Central America and sheparding them through the Darian Gap and putting them on busses to the U.S. border. They give the illegals clothes and backpacks and Visa debit cards and cellphones. They house them and feed them. Hook up with the U.N. somehow and you will not only get a free trip home, but free money on a debit card, to boot!

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Rob's avatar

I wonder if asylum for religious reasons (including exemption to COVID vaccine for "religious conscious" based on "therapeutic proportionality", see https://www.ncbcenter.org/ncbc-news/vaccineletter) might be an option. There are no "vaccine requirements" entering the USA through the southern border, but one has to survive Mexico. What about a connecting flight through LAX to Mexico, then request asylum once in customs?

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misterkel's avatar

Do a self-exemption from vaccines. Simply put in the fine print that it is a self exemption, then it is not fraud. Odds are the Ding dogs at security will accept it without comment.

Or not even ask for it.

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Diana's avatar

Yes! Pushing those jabs into every arm they can find available.

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