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I would also bet on horse #2, but I think the science on viruses should be beyond question in order to justify what they have done over the last couple of years. There are so many questions around the assumptions, process and conclusions of virology it deserves a rigorous examination. One very elementary question is even if contagious viruses were proven beyond doubt, there is still the immunity factor which has been tossed to the curb in favor of quackcine passes. It is easier to check someone's quackcine pass rather than determine their level of immunity.

One serious obstacle to overcome in regards to such an examination of virology is that there are powerful forces that would like for things to remain as they are, with no resolution. Viruses are good for business.

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Author

You bring up a deeper and relevant point which is that the virus theory has broadly been used to promote vaccines, quarantine of the sick, current medical paradigms that are not necessarily helping people which led to the outlandish Covid response. If we still keep that paradigm in place, there fore, won't it just be used again next time on a different more virulent deadly illness? This is where I view both sides as needing to be on the same side the most. Viruses tend to attenuate to less lethal forms, high deaths in the old and infirm tend to drop death rates below baseline later, et cetera. And there are still issues of corporate pollution, radiation exposure to cetera being covered up by big Corp...

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

Your last sentence is what I think is a very big part of it. Humanity has chosen to blame a virus rather than our own actions via chemicals, pollution, radiation, etc. Cutting corners to increase profits often involves harmful practices like chemical fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides, insecticides, etc. on crops for example. This kills the soil and reduces nutritive value of the crop, yet we keep doing it to allow for mass production and lower cost to the consumer. We end up with empty foods laden with chemical residues which leads to illness. Blame it on a virus and we keep looking in the wrong direction.

Choosing to pay the doctor, rather than the farmer has turned out to be very costly.

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It sure has! There have been some scientists in my family. My grandmother for example was a botanist which might explain my interest in native plants and growing practices. Her father was a doctor who sadly died of a staph infection treating his patients. I do respect that these are complicated fields with no magic bullets. I also recognize that we've incentivized creating problems rather than trying to solve them and that bill may be coming due...

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Nail on the head: "Viruses are good for business." Given this, it is nigh on impossible for any serious scientific examination of their existence, or not.

It's all about the money; it's always all about the money.

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The horse that took the ivermectin.

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LOL! I am sure one of them did...or maybe both in this case. ;-)

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

Ha ha! I am not sold on ivermectin as it is a pharmaceutical. I think it may be a factor for many, but the inclusion of zinc in many protocols leads me to speculate it is a zinc deficiency among many other things that is causing issues. There could be a parasite issue and there could be an ionophore issue. I haven't been following it as much lately, there may be other mechanisms of action.

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Any and all of the above...and then some

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I hear you re ivermectin, certainly can't make some 'at home' so easily...so dependency...and just finding it, easier now (i havent tried in 6 months)

Zinc for sure, much easier to get, also got some NAC to have on hand recently; I do wonder if the cabal has seen to it there is some nanos in all our otc meds now, would not be suprised...the brand i am using is calle Natural Factors NAC and they are WA state based....so anything is possible i spose...seems they REALLY want those Chemtrail bits in is, oooh le basturds I would off them if I could....

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

This article just came out https://www.remnantmd.com/phytic-acid/ which happens to discuss zinc.

The symptom "loss of smell and or taste" is highly correlated with zinc deficiency. Glyphosate may confound the problem. What if one cause of what we call covid is deficiency combined with toxicity?

Many are overfed and undernourished. The different levels of oxidative stress in each person and different amounts of medications and varied diets would also account for the rise and fall of 'cases' as opposed to the viral spread of a contagious agent which would suggest ever increasing cases until it burns out. What we have is a pandemic of NCD (non contagious disease) which the WHO forecast back in 2011.

If there is a virus which causes disease, its effect pales in comparison, but we don't need one to explain what is going on and requires a boatload of assumptions. Ockham's Razor suggests that the simpler explanation, that of deficiency and toxicity is preferred.

Then there is a completely different angle that suggests that SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon that was patented before the pandemic began. Some think the quackcines are the bioweapon. Lots to unravel here.

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Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

ever see sorry to bother you? funniest movie of the last 5 years imo, esp if you have been a telemarketer! https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sorry_to_bother_you_2018https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sorry_to_bother_you_2018

terrain theory vs. germ theory is a false binary - neither is a theory and both are real as anyone who has studied ayurveda or tcm is aware. in the meantime let's saddle up horse #2

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I love it and couldn't agree more! Jon Rappaport himself was all about never getting trapped in false binaries

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I have been wondering what the view on contagion is within ayurveda and tcm as I thought there may be some insight there. What complicates it is that living conditions in areas of larger populations in the distant past have likely stressed the terrain of those living there, so how can we determine what is terrain and what is contagion.

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Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

reduced to lowest terms, contagion takes whatever terrain it can. the stronger the terrain, the less the contagion.

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Yes, that corresponds to the modern concept of immunity which has been given a rough ride the last few years. We have been told quackcination is the way to end the pandemic and until recently very little if any attention is paid to those who have strong terrain or immunity.

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

This was an interesting read. I always appreciate anecdotal information juxtaposed with current theories being tested out, proven / refuted in the scientific community - not my area of expertise, and I am not married to my ideas / belief system.

I read both the Kirsch & Midwestern Doctor articles, which were indeed thought provoking. I am still unsure, or in the 'agnostic' camp, like yourself.

I suppose I am still hung up on the statistical manipulation side of things - how the various health bodies & governments falsified case numbers, and most pertinently in relation to the subject matter in your article - how and why the flu virtually disappeared throughout 2020-2021:

The UK Column used the UK government's own data to show flu cases being almost non-existent. Therefore suggesting that flu had been 'rebranded' as COVID to drive up the case numbers and fear factor. See here at timestamp 46:41 for an analysis on the data with charts from the WHO on screen on 'Number of specimens positive for influenza by subtype': https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-1st-february-2021

There are many webs of deceit being woven in real-time, I am not sure if we will ever uncover the truth behind all the damned lies around stats, especially as TPTB keep changing how they define a case, 'with' vs 'from' COVID for cause of death. As well as the UK's ONS no longer breaking down deaths & hospitalizations for comparison between injected / unjected.

It makes one's head spin.

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

The manipulation is one issue that makes me lean toward the 'no virus' side. It has been shown on the basis of all cause mortality that there was no lethal pandemic as the deaths with slight anomalous exceptions are not outside the bounds of previous years.

After more than two years, if the case numbers are anywhere near accurate, only 7% of the world population has been allegedly infected. This does not equate to a viral pandemic in which one spreads it to two and then two to four, as the whole world would be infected in about 30 days if there were not obstacles to spread.

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The virus explanation is the simpler of your two horses. I’m sure you can build another model to describe what we observe, but does it have predictive value? You can describe the observed paths of the planets from earth by assuming instead of the sun, they orbit the earth through a series of layered perfectly circular paths (epicycles), which is in some way aesthetic, but becomes insanely difficult to justify and calculate with for all orbits. Epicycles do not lead to a deeper understanding of the nature of gravity offered by Newtonian mechanics and then General Relativity. Does a non viral model lead to predictions that can be tested and (in)validated, and then can it be employed to improve our understanding and then management of future pandemics? Assuming thats desired that is — obviously by dorking with a virus to make it worse, and deliberately misunderstanding the dynamics (Ferguson, etc.) and management (essentially any government now), improving appears not to be the goal…

The viral model matches well how many diseases behave despite us probably still not understanding most of it. It is tied to observation of actual tiny things and their dynamics at the root of those diseases. Mis-use and deliberate misapplication of a model by those driven by nonscientific interests doesn’t invalidate the model. That said, in this pandemic part of the mismanagement has been employing likely flawed testing + followup in an unprecedented way that could mimic some of the spread dynamics a viral model would give you. You can, and I expect in many cases we did, fake up an asymptomatic pseudo outbreak through bad false positive testing and contact tracing. There definitely has been a non-viral parallel virtual pandemic component to this whole thing.

So for this pandemic my bet is on some kind of quantum superposition of your two horse-states.

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I recommend this documentary "The End of Germ Theory" by SPACEBUSTERS: https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8

Also, the book "The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life" by Arthur Firstenberg could be a good resource for you: https://rstv.mikerockstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Invisible-Rainbow.pdf

and ROCK ON \m/

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Jul 23, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

Apart from the divide in the ranks of the Anti-Vaxxers between Germ-theorists and Terrain-adepts, there is also another issue on which anti-vaxxers have different opinions.

And that is whether covid-19 and the mRNA vaccine roll-out are a deliberate strategy for depopulation of the world, or whether it is an experiment that has gone horribly wrong due to hubris, greed and stupidity, with political power motives playing along.

Michael YEADON, ex vice-president respiratory at Pfizer is clearly in the first camp and he is convinced that it is a deliberate move by WEF and their acolytes to kill a large part of the world population. Same goes for dr David MARTIN who describes the mRNA vaccine as a bio-weapon aimed to depopulate the world and create a new World Order.

I highly respect both of them and the depth of their knowledge.

But I simply cannot see the motive for the WEF and the Elites trying to kill their 'followers'. Because if it is indeed deliberate and the jabs were designed to get rid of those that took them thus killing all their loyal followers that did believe them and faithfully took the vax, they would end up with a remaining world population not sympathetic to their cause (to put it mildly).

The Western heavily-jabbed world would be decimated and the survivors would consist of anti-vaxxers (those smart enough not to fall for their narrative and resisting to take the vax). And the (materially) poor Asian and African countries that were so lucky as not being able to afford taking the vax would become the largest population. That surely cannot be the ultimate goal of a cabal wanting to get rid of 'all the useless eaters' (to quote their horrible WEF-ideologue Noah Yuval Harari).

NOTE: Strangely enough I did not yet come across any publications discussing the above, so maybe one of Amy's followers can point me to info on what could be the motive of the WEF-acolytes to depopulate the world starting with those that follow their 'guidance'.

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I've seen Matthew Ehret go into some very deep intellectual historical dives of the Malthusian ideology and historical basis of elite ideas regarding depopulation in general, but other than a few people musing about the Deagel predictions (which showed dramatic population declines in the US and Western Europe), nobody is exactly pinpointing why they would be willing to take out their "followers." I'll posit a few lines of thought: they don't care about any of us, so who it kills doesn't really matter in this experiment within an experiment. They also might be able to starve out populations with their climate change nonsense i.e. banning fertilizer to Sri Lanka led to mass food shortages. I think any analysis would have to bring in big capital market inflows: people in power cling desperately to it...

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One reason is the resource angle. Reducing the population would reduce demand on resources and energy. Allowing population to grow unchecked could cause us to reach a breaking point at which currently existing systems would be overloaded and fail. To avoid that, a quiet cull is necessary.

There is certainly debate on what the capacity of the Earth is, some think there is room for a lot more people while others think we are already way past it.

Sustainable has different levels to it. I would put more credence on those who base their numbers not just on projected food supply, but on food supply that can be maintained while keeping the soil healthy, not just dumping chemicals and boosting yield for one example.

If the soil is increasingly less fertile and needs more chemicals, that is the same as needing more meds and/or jabs to keep humans 'healthy'. It leads down the path of disease and death. There are signs this is turning around, how fast it will shift depends on how many adopt health promoting measures in our terrain, both internal and external.

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This argument has been going on for a long time in the farming segment: what amount of land is needed to support the needs of a population? Malthusians did not account for a dynamic model of human life, meaning that they did not understand that people had the creative capacity to solve problems that arose, allowing them to increase the productivity of land and support many more people than was originally envisioned. This argument becomes very deep and literally embraces a spiritual and religious component: are children a Blessing from God, in which case there should be no attempts by anyone to limit population anywhere at anytime under any circumstances? Or is the excess population a burden that should be culled and managed to stave off eventual collapse? I am firmly on point number one as attempts at central planning are managed by flawed humans and have been a disaster everywhere they've been implemented. Enter capital flows into the argument and how those who control the money supply control these collapses and disasters

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Jul 23, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

I tend to believe that it is an experiment that has gone horribly wrong due to hubris by Mad Scientists, greed by Big Pharma, bought Mainstream Media and stupidity of the Sheeple blindly accepting the narrative, and of course with opportunistic political power motives playing along as usual.

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It has gone wrong to those who think 'safe and effective' means there is no or low expected adverse outcomes from quackcines. 'Horribly wrong' has not yet been acknowledged by the mainstream, but the boat sure is leaky.

Perhaps for the proponents, a rate of 0.05% adverse events is acceptable when the disease they are allegedly preventing claims more than that. The recent data suggests this ratio may soon tip or may have already tipped against them.

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Jul 24, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

The quackcines are NOT preventing the disease, you can still get COVID and transmit it as even the CDC already for quite some time reluctantly admits. And even the very last straw of the proponents that the vaccines prevent you getting serious adverse effects, has now been debunked. The data clearly shows that after a couple of months the vaccines have NEGATIVE efficacy (meaning you are MORE likely to get COVID after having taking them).

And then we are not even talking about the devastating longer-term effects of these poison shots (SADS, cardiac attacks, cancer resurgence, etc etc).

Those that forced this pHARMa-'solution' on the population have of course a vested interest in downplaying and hiding the adverse effects of the jabs. Yes, many of them are scared sh!tless, because quite literally their lives are at stake once the larger public finally embraces the truth that they have been conned and that their loved ones are harmed or died from these shots. And the writing is on the wall as the 'smarter' ones in the mainstream media are now slowly changing their tune already by running some mildly critical articles in the hope that we forget how they deceived us during the vax-rollout. Their dam is cracking and the water is trickling through it, and the real tsunami is approaching quickly.

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Jul 23, 2022·edited Jul 23, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

I don't foresee it being that bleak, in terms of decimating the Western world. Even if death rates remain at a level 40% above normal, that means 70,000 per week would die in the US rather than 50,000. The birth rate is below replacement, but immigration will make up a certain portion. According to https://www.census.gov/popclock/ there is a net gain of one person every 26 seconds.

It would take events beyond what we are seeing with quackcine injury to make an alarming difference in US population. If food shortages do arise that will have an impact, but how much?

Of course, if the quackcine injury accelerates, the sheep may become alarmed, but we don't know yet if the numbers will settle or increase with further booster jabs. Maybe they will reduce lifespan and reduce fertility. Is that enough for the Malthusians? If they are seeking a cull of a more significant nature, the quackcines aren't doing it. Yet.

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Your overall numbers are correct but I have one caveat about immigration: it is basically all over the Southern border, which is getting all of the attention. But I can tell you from on the ground experience in Thailand trying to make my husband a visa to the USA that immigration from other places: things like H1B visas for Indian tech workers or tourist visas or student visas, have all but collapsed. I want to do a rundown on those numbers but the Department of Homeland Security website much like a lot of US CDC statistics are horribly out of date (only going through 2019 right now).

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The population is increasing in the US every 41 seconds instead of 26 back in July. It is slowing, but still increasing.

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Jul 23, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

Hi Amy, thanks for posting this. You expressed my thoughts on the issue perfectly.

Personally I tend towards the 'terrain theory' (as one commenter correctly wrote - the word 'theory' might put you on the wrong foot here as it is not some hypothetical thought-exercise).

But indeed that does not mean that I categorically dismiss the prevailing 'germ theory'. Like you wrote: if viruses do not exist, what are all those virologists then looking at in their microscopes and categorizing different strains of 'viruses'. Of course, it could be that what we label 'viruses' are nothing more than the toxic debris that our body is excreting when trying to recover from an infection (which is the core of the terrain theory). That would explain transmission by infected persons as well as the fact that afaik no one has ever come across a 'living' virus.

But by flatly denying that viruses exist, some anti-vaxxers (a badge of honour and not a derogatory term imo) 'close the door' to on-the-fencers that might consider the terrain point of view, when it is made clear to them that it might be just a matter of semantics.

Big Pharma has of course a big interest in pushing the 'germ theory' as it is the easy excuse for selling their snake-oil remedies in the War against the Virus. And the insane mask mandates and lock-down policies help to prolonge the broad public belief that the nasty viruses are trying to kill us.

So it doesn't help flatly stating that viruses do not exist, imo the terrain-adepts would be taken more serious (of course only by those that are open to dialogue) when stating that viruses are not living things, but are toxic debris excreted by our body when trying to recover from an infection.

NOTE: I might be dead-wrong on the above, but it is currently the only way I am able to make sense out of the whole argument...

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I tend to agree with all that you said on it. Germ theory I think was pushed very hard because it supported a pharmaceutical model that consolidates control to to those who push remedies whereas terrain in its inherent support of overall health through things like diet and healthy habits does not. Terrain would also have been a threat to big corporations that are dumping pesticides and poisoning the habitat in various ways which will of course lead to a sicker population. But something does pass from one person to another and virus is the framework by which a lot of people understand it so I'm not in a position to argue semantics on it. I also think virologists are in a better position to argue with virologists about the flaws of this jab, immune response, sequencing and mutations so I'll let them without some distraction from me...

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Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Amy Sukwan

Yes, that is part of the PR, avoid all legitimate concerns by pointing at the crazy theories and lump them all together. Repeat the mantra, "Safe and Effective". Their campaign has resulted in best ever revenues and profits.

What I find interesting is that people have lost trust in pHARMa and public health, but see the concept of a contagious virus as separate. What if it is all part of their marketing? Mix just enough truth and fill in the rest with scientific jargon and theories of health that are so complex very few will take the time and/or have the interest to investigate them.

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I'm just curious, do you believe that "microchips", or more succinctly networking nanotechnology, in the "vaccine" is NOT a legitimate concern? And, if so, how would you refute the evidence presented by La Quinta Columna (Spain), et al? [video example: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bhkhVwyssqLR/]

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There's a word for it Zool. It is called "nutpicking." It basically means taking the most far out thing they can find, often twisting it further out of context, and then using it as a straw man argument to say "See!All these people are basically nutters!" It allows the other side to gain unfounded ground though. There are legitimate concerns about all of these issues that should be addressed.

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As a certified Master Life Coach, I specialize in helping people recover from Narcissistic emotional abuse and there are certain hallmarks which distinguish it from other types of abuse. The behavior patterns, tricks, and techniques of an emotionally abusive narcissist are always the same so I've developed a sort of "narcissist decoder ring", as I've come to know it. From my point of view, the media, the politicians, and the bureaucrats have all been consistently displaying these behavior patterns since the very beginning of the "Covid-19 crisis".

Have you ever been in a relationship with a dishonest lover who was cheating on you? If so, chances are that when you finally confronted them (after months, or years in some cases, of a nagging suspicion and circumstantial evidence), they acted incredulous. They accused you of being crazy. They might have called you stupid and belittled you, even mocking you, for suggesting the Truth was anything other than what they've told you. They may have insisted that you didn't hear what you heard, you didn't see what you saw, and then punished you by acting like you don't exist until you can learn to accept their "gaslight" reality as the whole truth.

If you were to keep pushing them, however, you would find yourself caught up in an unending labyrinth of circular conversations where they only offer you answers of confusing word salad that always twist things around so that they can shift the blame and point their crooked finger at you as the perpetrator, while they play the victim. The end result of this madman's game is an experience of cognitive dissonance, where it has become impossible to reconcile the two realities, which often leads to a mental break in the person who's being abused. At this point, the abuser will usually use this as proof that "you're crazy" and "you need help".

They have no empathy for the excruciating torment they are causing you. They will never admit they've done anything wrong, even when they've been caught red-handed. Their only goal is to keep their hidden schemes and nefarious activities a secret from you. At any cost.Their control over your mind, beliefs, and perception is the only thing they care about - even if it kills you. It is a particular type of evil.

Can you see any correlation here with what we have been seeing in the behaviors of the media, the politicians, and the bureaucrats in relation to Covid-19 and the experimental mutagenic "vaccine" serum injections? No matter the evidence that proves otherwise, they will never admit they are lying. They will say "you're crazy", they will shame and humiliate you, they will try to silence you and act like you don't exist. They will double-down on their gaslight reality narrative and embark on a smearing campaign against you, playing the victim, and have their flying monkeys attack you on their behalf. They will do whatever it takes to keep their betrayal of your trust from coming to light.

It is about control of your beliefs and perceptions, which is to say of your mind. If you understand that the congressional Church Committee hearings long ago revealed that the CIA has infiltrated the media via Operation Mockingbird, that under the Ford presidency (with VP Nelson Rockefeller at his side) congress had further revealed the CIA was experimenting on the American people via their MK Ultra mind control program (based on research conducted by Nazi doctors), and that the CIA itself was established as a top secret haven for the high command of the Nazi SS after WWII via Operation Paperclip, then it requires no leap of logic to accept that the so-called main stream media is nothing more than a tool of the Nazi deep state to control the minds (which is to say beliefs and perceptions) of the masses.

Given the facts as presented here, is it any wonder that "we never get to have the basic conversation", as Zool so correctly asserted? The problem is that they've been allowed to be in control of the conversation. Just like our cheating, dishonest lover, they will pull every dirty trick in the book to protect and promulgate their cover story gaslight narrative lie in order to keep the true depth of their betrayal of trust concealed behind a thick curtain of deception and confusion.

Am I wrong?

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You are absolutely correct and I couldn't agree more. Somewhere I have a wheel of signs of an abusive partner. It includes things like controlling what you wear, who you see, where you work, how you make money, questioning your version of events, breaking you down with nonsensical rules and the like. Every single thing on the wheel was instrumental in government Covid response. Every single one.

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LOL I'm glad I could be of assistance!

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