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LoveOneAnother's avatar

Friday funny: I got a reply on another substack and someone said I was "LOA". I thought that was weird that someone would think I was on Leave of Absence or maybe it was cryptic insult to my logic. And then of course, I realized it was an acronym for my name. 😆😆

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

LOL! I saw a joke that made me chuckle like that: a man is talking to his friend and he's like "seriously what is up with this acronym IDK? I don't know what IDK means!" And his friend says "You really don't know what I don't know means?" And the guy is like. "Yes! Even google doesn't know what I don't know means! It just says I don't know!"

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BlueSphinx's avatar

Haha, same with me > When receiving replies that refer to me or my postings as BS.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

LOL! I never figured out that acronym on BlueSphinx!

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

Yay!! Great to hear ya'll are feeling better! Keep practicing healthy habits and get some good days under your belt.

On the survey, previously I was a research each jab, but now I don't trust any of them after the jab fandango.

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Dr. Flurm Googlybean's avatar

Good you’ve beaten the bug! Knew you would ;)

Trust is earned, and past trust has now been burned down and stomped on. It needs to be re-demonstrated, earned again. It may well be good science (actual science) but given what has been done in this that has to be shown again.

My kids will be starting school in the US in a month or so. There will be a likely contentious Dr’s visit or two to get medical forms and such. At this point I will be reviewing trial data for anything claimed to be needed to be injected into my kids. I no longer grant them the authority to decide this.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I've done religious exemptions on both of my girls when it came to school immunizations. One school had three administrators that looked at me like I had grown a second head when I asked (I walked out of that one) one was very matter of fact but had a school nurse that had me write the name of every single vaccine that I was opposed to with my initials. That could scare parents who haven't done their own research. It didn't scare me. I think I was able to list off the top of my head more vaccines than the nurse even knew existed: Hep-A, Hep-B, DTAP, meningitis, Gardasil-HPV, rotavirus, varicella, MMR, influenza. She seemed impressed as the list grew. A third school had their own special form for religious exemptions and the administrator was explaining in Spanish to somebody on the phone how to get it. I loved that charter school. Long story short some places are easy to get exemptions and some places are very hard. The hard ones do not usually have good academic programs

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Dr. Flurm Googlybean's avatar

Well I’ve also managed to get by with “inept parent that keeps apologizing and promising they’ll get that form turned in” (not far from reality) reasonably often. Changing schools though, so thats harder to get by. But never underestimate the power of feigned incompetence, especially when confronted with the real thing ;)

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BlueSphinx's avatar

When I was still posting on ThaigerTalk in the Controversial Covid Corner sub-forum that I created, I sometimes tried to not offend some readers by mentioning that I was not an anti-vaxxer, but that I was a pro-choice adept. By that I meant that I would NEVER take the jab myself, but that I did not deny people the right to poison themselves with these covid-shots.

However, I always felt a bit uneasy about that weasle-stance. And of course I was never able to convince any vax-enthusiast no matter how compelling the evidence I presented, that getting jabbed was not a good idea. So I gradually radicalized, and am now proudly wearing the Anti-Vaxxer badge.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I went through that during the mommy wars over childhood vaccines. I was active in a group called Stop Mandatory Vaccination way before conjabs came on the scene. Some parents of vaccine inured children would trickle in, but the group as a whole became much more antivaxxer, to the point where my more moderate stance was sort of villified by both sides the parents jabbing their kids didn't want to hear it while the antivaxxers didn't think I was doing enough to save children. Save children how? Many people have to learn their own lessons the hard way...

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nymusicdaily's avatar

here's a bigger question - what do people think of mrna shots? do they know the difference between a genuine vax, good or bad, and dna-altering gene therapy? i think that's the torpedo that sinks the pharma lusitania. with all ancillary consequences..

glad you and your daughter are feeling better! guessing that you may be a garlic-and-ginger person, being where you are -it's always my first line of defense

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

Garlic ginger and lots of spicy food for me!

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Glad you and your daughter are on the mend, Amy. I was thinking about you a lot.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

Thanks...

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BlueSphinx's avatar

Hi Amy,

Good to hear that you and your daughter are feeling better! And as I wrote before, you now also have the Added Bonus of covid-immunity due to your immune system having recovered naturally, something which the jabs are NOT able to do hence the covid re-infections of the vaxxed.

We are exactly on the same page when you wrote: "I tend to straddle a spiritual middle ground there probably best summarized by the late Zelenko: there is no question that people are going to die. It’s just a matter of how many."

Unfortunately, the most optimistic pragmatic view would still be a couple million deaths due to the 100% safe and effective jabs.

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Monica Hughes PhD's avatar

I find myself going back and forth on how bad I think things will get because I'm an analyst type, and there are a lot of data to take in. This has been a long time building, so unfortunately, I don't think it will resolved anytime soon (under 5 years). In fact, it may well take much longer, or never be solved at all. If humans are reduced to 500M in numbers, we won't be living in pods eating bugs, though. We'll be back in the forest, free.

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Monica Hughes PhD's avatar

P.S. I think some preventative childhood vaccines might actually have value in treatment of chronic illness. An unconventional view to hold, but there is strong evidence that spontaneous remissions from lots of diseases including cancer are associated with feverish infections. Many people have been successfully treated for cancer with these vaccines. They are a means of reintroducing the germs to our lives that, if circulating, would be lowering cancer rates, most likely. The immune system is missing various triggers that should have occurred through life. (Very obviously, toxins from food and pollution and yes, vaccines, are an issue.)

They are dangerous, but the danger is a matter of risk/reward ratio and informed consent. If you have a terminal illness your chance of dying is 100%, not 0.1%.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I have studied this issue myself. I can make the observation in my own life that short lived illnesses were accompanied by very high fever whereas more prolonged things that just wouldn't go away were usually accompanied by no fever or almost none. I am sure both me and my daughter had very very high fevers this time which might have burnt this out of us quickly. I still feel worn out today she wanted to go fishing and play tickle monster. Maybe I'm just getting old. ;-) In regards to vaccines I have seen some research that suggests that inactivated ones can lead to lower cancer rates later in life (lower all cause mortality too if I remember). I've tended to view a one time shot which theoretically gives lifelong protection in a more positive light than others, so things like rabies, pertussis, BCG. My first husband had a pretty bad reaction to his adult MMR jab before coming to America though...and no one has studied the cumulative vaccine schedule, which has only expanded. I understand others who trust none of them and am forgiving of those who trust all of them. But the conjabs had no element of informed consent...just coercion..

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Monica Hughes PhD's avatar

100% agree with all of this. Yes, you're describing the difference between chronic and acute infection.

In any case, if I had a child (which I don't), I'd be inclined to not give vaccines. My point was that they can be used therapeutically after disease occurs, generally in adults, and particularly BCG, which is already approved for treatment of bladder cancer and though difficult to source, can be used against other cancers also.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

Interesting! I wasn't aware on that link. I take a very very very light touch on all of them and tend not fix things that aren't broken. They all carry risks and I know that...

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Hard to lose something I never had.

Glad to hear you two are doing better.

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Charlie Obert's avatar

A more general comment - something I've discovered is that the level of deception and manipulation by government and media re the vaxxes is nothing new. The more I research back in history, the more I see this sort of mass manipulation and deception as a general pattern, going back at least 100 years and likely longer - and not just regarding vaccines or drugs.

The level of deception and manipulation is nothing new. What seems to be new is the technology that allows questioners and dissenters to network and pool resources. That gives me hope.

On the other side, what discourages me is that the questioners tend to be high on the geek side - they're intellectuals, thinkers rather than feelers. I'm convinced the great majority of people don't do anything I would recognize as rational thought - they don't think, they emote and respond. I'm not being sarcastic here, I'm trying to be descriptive.

The narrative on the vaccines does seem to be collapsing - along with the narratives on the economy, and the climate, and race, and gender roles, and the war, and damned near any other topic the government and media use to manipulate people. It is a general collapse of credibility of the authorities.

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Smoke1943's avatar

Ditto--I miss Rush!!

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