We’re going through this here somewhat — B.C. (Before Covid) we followed the schedule, as its the thing you’re apparently supposed to do. There are the from newborn to toddler regular checkups that usually involve a round of jabs for the kids. Our kids have as far as we know tolerated them fine, never had an immediate reaction. There are then the school entrance milestones where our state enforces some demonstration of having this or that injection. Kindergarten, middle school, high school, coming into a new school involves presenting medical forms.
Upshot (puns always intended) is this week we put in a religious exception for the first time. And this is not because we have a scriptural doctrine based prohibition against some of these — indeed we’ve done the full shebang for our oldest and most for the other kids. But it is interesting though in our state there is actually ONLY the religious option (medical too, but that I know is not happening given my kids had most of the sequence already). They infact in documentation seem to imply scrutiny is to prevent any other kind of argument. So we’re trying religious, even though I believe I can make a pretty strong scientific case that in the US most of the shots are likely unnecessary, and risk/benefit is at best a wash.
I think I also learned a bit from my experience trying to do this with my employer, where I laid out a pretty strong ‘informed consent is literally impossible’ case against. FULLY referenced. I was way too specific, and my exception I think therefore remains in some kind of limbo. The few others where I work that essentially put “none of your f’ing business” were approved (doubt that was literally what they put, but some I know could have).
I was tempted to list that we are devout Jedi (something the middle schooler would be completely onboard with, albeit dark side), and that injections interfere with our midichlorian levels, inhibiting religious practice. But I left it vague. Did not even name a religion, just stated although we have had these in the past we find due to sincerely held religious beliefs (that phrase I think important, and lifted direct from American Disabilities Act) we are unable to do them. Less info is more I think. They want to bait you into something they can argue against. We see what happens, like I said still in flight.
All this said, its not unlikely we do later on go ahead with TDaP — but it will take me time to read the literature, look at data and make an actual risk assessment. To first order the form is a shot across the bow that we’re not taking anybody’s word for this ever again. If there is trouble I will be loaded for bear.
My experience is to be as general as possible with any religious exemption you are trying to get. Otherwise you give them information that they can use to chip away at it. If you say you are devoutly Catholic and oppose the use of aborted fetal tissue in Covid vaccines, for instance (totally true story with my Mom btw), they can then offer alternatives like Novavax. Try to be as confidential as possible about your reasoning. If you feel put on the spot, yes I suppose citing a very obscure religion might throw them off a bit, but could back you into a corner (i.e. saying you are opposed to all injections that penetrate the skin might catch you in a lie if you or your child has an accident and needs bloods transfusions/IV treatment). I have noticed that some schools have an unfriendly administrator who will deeply scrutinize whatever you say, some sympathetic types will rubber stamp whatever you say, and some are in the middle, where if you show up armed with knowledge of the law and confidence in your convictions then they don't consider you worth the fight. My personal religious beliefs which I have never been forced to expound upon is that God put everything in my path for a reason including my older girls extreme adverse reaction to her first jab as a message that this was not right for us. In general I am opposed to all jabs which are based on hypothetical exposure in the future to some pathogen, but am amenable to to a narrow subset of vaccines based on acute confirmed exposure to something, as I believe God would have also put this situation in my path. In other words if my daughter was attacked by a rabid bat on a school field trip I would probably be okay with the rabies jab series in that circumstance. Presumably the school would be able to get in contact with me in this situation and it would be out of their purview were such a thing to happen anyways...
Yes — I really wanted to argue the scientific merits (or lack thereof), but only avenue open is religious. I’ve also tried arguing science as religous practice before, which probably is honest, and I expect completely confuses them (a secondary goal).
For my employer (that one for covid) they had a form with a question that directly asked about other shots, the intent being to trip people up on the fetal tissue question. For that I answered “of course I’ve taken them” and proceeded to list the counts from VAERS of all the shots they listed, then the orders of magnitude more gigantic COVID19 number. Probably not what they were expecting. Hope it got somebody asking a question or two though… The HR person handling my case did leave (as in in the middle of the process email autoreplied that they were no longer working there). Sure that was just a coincidence…
Science has been turned into a religion. It contains numerous unfalsifiable truths and that has become very blatant in many areas of the Covid crisis. As a side note this is my favorite religious exemption letter (in general and very applicable to Covid "vaccines"). I think these guys do the best general outline tying together more universal religious principles with more scientific nuances: https://www.establishment-of-religion.world/affidavit-and-demand-for-discovery-religious-exemption-form
The religion The Science evangelizes is certainly not one I follow. In fact would anyway distinguish a religion followed vs one practiced. Yes too many people blindly follow dubious Science as a false religion without having any understanding of its practice. Not that I’m here really trying to argue science as a religion. I think.
Thanks for the link — was unaware of those guys. Thats definitely an industrial strength letter!
*How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Pediatrician
—Just a few places
to start your reading. There a loads more where these came from. Once you start, you’ll be amazed at how much info is out there that you’ve never known.
Never forget Openvaers.com ! And remember the “under reporting factor” URF, is anywhere from 99%-40%, depending who you ask, so be sure and mentally add a percentage to every stat.
Thanks for the list! I am a regular reader of many of those I'm catching up on theCovidBlog right now. I'm thinking I need a good murder mystery segue into Anne Heche...a storytime with Amy special!
If you file a religious exemption, that's it. There should be no questions asked. You do not have to prove that you are sincere or have decades of church activity or quote biblical citations. I am attaching a video from The Healthy American (Peggy Hall). Her website is full of valuable information for parents.
In NJ under the hand-picked governor, Alfred E Newman, who I call Fuhrer Phil, he tried to jam 100% vaccine compliance down parents throats in December 2019. The Fuhrer wanted to remove religious exemptions which only affected about 5% of the population. This guy is a real motherfucker. And NJ is The pharmaceutical capital of the US. So when the legislation came to a vote, a crowd so large descended upon Trenton, NJ that it was something not seen since the Revolutionary War. Parents, teachers, and advocates came together, made a lot of noise, and even though the Assembly passed the legislation, the Senate fell short by 2 votes. The attempt failed. But not to worry. The motherfuckers tried again in early January 2020 before the new congress took office. Again the people descended upon Trenton. The legislation had been modified (so they thought) to accommodate largely low-income communities (like Trenton and Newark and Camden) but the modification included language which was clearly racist and classist. The attempt failed again. Oh, they will try again. That what motherfuckers do. Thanks for an encouraging post. Our children are not wards of The State.
No our children are not wards of the state! Ultimately you as the parent will suffer the repercussions for failing to guard and protect them. Yes they will all try again and again but I believe that the Covid jabs might have been a step too far and could upset their whole apple cart. I say about time. But how would this look on the ground? Mass civil disobedience by school administrators, rendering the edicts of health officials and politicians irrelevant? A large scale movement towards new medical and school paradigms that make the administrative state obsolete?
Medical boards are the new inquisition committees. Doctors are the new priests.
Or generals and their soldiers...
We’re going through this here somewhat — B.C. (Before Covid) we followed the schedule, as its the thing you’re apparently supposed to do. There are the from newborn to toddler regular checkups that usually involve a round of jabs for the kids. Our kids have as far as we know tolerated them fine, never had an immediate reaction. There are then the school entrance milestones where our state enforces some demonstration of having this or that injection. Kindergarten, middle school, high school, coming into a new school involves presenting medical forms.
This year a middle school threshold hit us (https://drflurmgooglybean.substack.com/p/prepping-for-the-school-checkup?r=r6d2x&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web). I probably need to do a follow up post, though some things are still in flight maybe.
Upshot (puns always intended) is this week we put in a religious exception for the first time. And this is not because we have a scriptural doctrine based prohibition against some of these — indeed we’ve done the full shebang for our oldest and most for the other kids. But it is interesting though in our state there is actually ONLY the religious option (medical too, but that I know is not happening given my kids had most of the sequence already). They infact in documentation seem to imply scrutiny is to prevent any other kind of argument. So we’re trying religious, even though I believe I can make a pretty strong scientific case that in the US most of the shots are likely unnecessary, and risk/benefit is at best a wash.
I think I also learned a bit from my experience trying to do this with my employer, where I laid out a pretty strong ‘informed consent is literally impossible’ case against. FULLY referenced. I was way too specific, and my exception I think therefore remains in some kind of limbo. The few others where I work that essentially put “none of your f’ing business” were approved (doubt that was literally what they put, but some I know could have).
I was tempted to list that we are devout Jedi (something the middle schooler would be completely onboard with, albeit dark side), and that injections interfere with our midichlorian levels, inhibiting religious practice. But I left it vague. Did not even name a religion, just stated although we have had these in the past we find due to sincerely held religious beliefs (that phrase I think important, and lifted direct from American Disabilities Act) we are unable to do them. Less info is more I think. They want to bait you into something they can argue against. We see what happens, like I said still in flight.
All this said, its not unlikely we do later on go ahead with TDaP — but it will take me time to read the literature, look at data and make an actual risk assessment. To first order the form is a shot across the bow that we’re not taking anybody’s word for this ever again. If there is trouble I will be loaded for bear.
My experience is to be as general as possible with any religious exemption you are trying to get. Otherwise you give them information that they can use to chip away at it. If you say you are devoutly Catholic and oppose the use of aborted fetal tissue in Covid vaccines, for instance (totally true story with my Mom btw), they can then offer alternatives like Novavax. Try to be as confidential as possible about your reasoning. If you feel put on the spot, yes I suppose citing a very obscure religion might throw them off a bit, but could back you into a corner (i.e. saying you are opposed to all injections that penetrate the skin might catch you in a lie if you or your child has an accident and needs bloods transfusions/IV treatment). I have noticed that some schools have an unfriendly administrator who will deeply scrutinize whatever you say, some sympathetic types will rubber stamp whatever you say, and some are in the middle, where if you show up armed with knowledge of the law and confidence in your convictions then they don't consider you worth the fight. My personal religious beliefs which I have never been forced to expound upon is that God put everything in my path for a reason including my older girls extreme adverse reaction to her first jab as a message that this was not right for us. In general I am opposed to all jabs which are based on hypothetical exposure in the future to some pathogen, but am amenable to to a narrow subset of vaccines based on acute confirmed exposure to something, as I believe God would have also put this situation in my path. In other words if my daughter was attacked by a rabid bat on a school field trip I would probably be okay with the rabies jab series in that circumstance. Presumably the school would be able to get in contact with me in this situation and it would be out of their purview were such a thing to happen anyways...
Yes — I really wanted to argue the scientific merits (or lack thereof), but only avenue open is religious. I’ve also tried arguing science as religous practice before, which probably is honest, and I expect completely confuses them (a secondary goal).
For my employer (that one for covid) they had a form with a question that directly asked about other shots, the intent being to trip people up on the fetal tissue question. For that I answered “of course I’ve taken them” and proceeded to list the counts from VAERS of all the shots they listed, then the orders of magnitude more gigantic COVID19 number. Probably not what they were expecting. Hope it got somebody asking a question or two though… The HR person handling my case did leave (as in in the middle of the process email autoreplied that they were no longer working there). Sure that was just a coincidence…
Science has been turned into a religion. It contains numerous unfalsifiable truths and that has become very blatant in many areas of the Covid crisis. As a side note this is my favorite religious exemption letter (in general and very applicable to Covid "vaccines"). I think these guys do the best general outline tying together more universal religious principles with more scientific nuances: https://www.establishment-of-religion.world/affidavit-and-demand-for-discovery-religious-exemption-form
The religion The Science evangelizes is certainly not one I follow. In fact would anyway distinguish a religion followed vs one practiced. Yes too many people blindly follow dubious Science as a false religion without having any understanding of its practice. Not that I’m here really trying to argue science as a religion. I think.
Thanks for the link — was unaware of those guys. Thats definitely an industrial strength letter!
Practice is important. I can tell you my mother is not at all a hypocrite. ;) Walk the walk whatever it is.
*A SHOT in the DARK
*DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS by Dr. Suzanne Humphries
*Anything by RFK, Jr.
*Dr. James Neuenschwander
*Del Bigtree
*VAXXED 1 & 2
*How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Pediatrician
—Just a few places
to start your reading. There a loads more where these came from. Once you start, you’ll be amazed at how much info is out there that you’ve never known.
Thanks — yes having to build a bibliography it appears. Some of these names I was aware of, but not all. Will look
I wonder if "I think the shots are the devil's baptism" makes one eligible for a religious exemption? 🤔
LOL it's a good line to try!
Never forget Openvaers.com ! And remember the “under reporting factor” URF, is anywhere from 99%-40%, depending who you ask, so be sure and mentally add a percentage to every stat.
Here are more witnesses:
Realnotrare.com
C19VaxReactions.com
VaxPain.US
COVIDVaccineVictims.com
TheCOVIDBlog.com
HealthImpactNews.com
TELEGRAM - COVID Vaccine Injuries
TheEmpoweror.com
VaxTestimonies.org
1000COVIDStories.com
VaxPain.US
Here's what Renz already has developed: https://renz-law.com/
See this, also: https://thewhiterose.uk/covid-injections-a-giant-experiment-designed-to-kill/
Thanks for the list! I am a regular reader of many of those I'm catching up on theCovidBlog right now. I'm thinking I need a good murder mystery segue into Anne Heche...a storytime with Amy special!
Yeah what was that? Working on a documentary about what?
If you file a religious exemption, that's it. There should be no questions asked. You do not have to prove that you are sincere or have decades of church activity or quote biblical citations. I am attaching a video from The Healthy American (Peggy Hall). Her website is full of valuable information for parents.
In NJ under the hand-picked governor, Alfred E Newman, who I call Fuhrer Phil, he tried to jam 100% vaccine compliance down parents throats in December 2019. The Fuhrer wanted to remove religious exemptions which only affected about 5% of the population. This guy is a real motherfucker. And NJ is The pharmaceutical capital of the US. So when the legislation came to a vote, a crowd so large descended upon Trenton, NJ that it was something not seen since the Revolutionary War. Parents, teachers, and advocates came together, made a lot of noise, and even though the Assembly passed the legislation, the Senate fell short by 2 votes. The attempt failed. But not to worry. The motherfuckers tried again in early January 2020 before the new congress took office. Again the people descended upon Trenton. The legislation had been modified (so they thought) to accommodate largely low-income communities (like Trenton and Newark and Camden) but the modification included language which was clearly racist and classist. The attempt failed again. Oh, they will try again. That what motherfuckers do. Thanks for an encouraging post. Our children are not wards of The State.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSJ3_8i3Zk
No our children are not wards of the state! Ultimately you as the parent will suffer the repercussions for failing to guard and protect them. Yes they will all try again and again but I believe that the Covid jabs might have been a step too far and could upset their whole apple cart. I say about time. But how would this look on the ground? Mass civil disobedience by school administrators, rendering the edicts of health officials and politicians irrelevant? A large scale movement towards new medical and school paradigms that make the administrative state obsolete?