The story begins with the old infertile wife in the time of Sodom and Gomorrah, back in the days when God spoke directly to people and some lived to be hundreds of years old. This all was taken from Bible Gateway:
Hagar and Ishmael
16 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.”
Abram agreed to what Sarai said. 3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife. 4 He slept with Hagar, and she conceived.
I asked the AI how old Hagar the slave was when she became pregnant and it answered 14, though her age is disputed and requires some backtracking and assumptions made. It is mentioned in the Bible that she became pregnant in one night, which surely inflamed Sarai’s jealousy.
When she knew she was pregnant, she began to despise her mistress. 5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my slave in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the Lord judge between you and me.”
It would be more shocking if the old infertile wife and the slave now bearing her husband’s progeny didn’t fight. Poor Abram.
6 “Your slave is in your hands,” Abram said. “Do with her whatever you think best.” Then Sarai mistreated Hagar; so she fled from her.
7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?”
“I’m running away from my mistress Sarai,” she answered.
9 Then the angel of the Lord told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”
11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:
“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,[a]
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward[b] all his brothers.”
Those who know the rest of this Biblical tale might be going aha! That’s the Muslims!
13 She gave this name to the Lord who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen[c] the One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi[d]; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.
15 So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael
Although the age of Hagar can be disputed the age of Abram and his wife is made very clear repeatedly in the Bible. One of my first fascinations as a child with these Old Testament verses was the extreme ages in which many of the characters lived to. So now we come to the next verses.
The Covenant of Circumcision
17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty[a]; walk before me faithfully and be blameless. 2 Then I will make my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”
3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram[b]; your name will be Abraham,[c] for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”
9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
15 God also said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you are no longer to call her Sarai; her name will be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and will surely give you a son by her. I will bless her so that she will be the mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her.”
17 Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, “Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?”
Sarah laughed too at the insanity of her having a child at 90 years old in later verses, but the Lord is the Lord. Let’s count back here a little bit. Old presumably infertile Sarah gave her slave Hagar to her husband so that he could bear a son when she was around 78. Does that not seem like an extremely late age to finally throw in the towel on conceiving a child naturally with her husband? Even the richest movie stars with access to the most advanced modern technology has to offer would have likely given up this ghost decades before their late 70’s. Nowadays I know of women in their late 30’s who are sure that they are infertile and in some cases worry about the ramifications of this on their husbands. I know of a few more extreme cases where life was given a chance, but well, crazy swinging Ohioans. Nothing about this story is hard for me to wrap my head around.
Abraham was, as any good father would be, concerned about the welfare of his first born son:
18 And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!”
19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac.[d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.
The Birth of Isaac
21 Now the Lord was gracious to Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did for Sarah what he had promised. 2 Sarah became pregnant and bore a son to Abraham in his old age, at the very time God had promised him. 3 Abraham gave the name Isaac[a] to the son Sarah bore him. 4 When his son Isaac was eight days old, Abraham circumcised him, as God commanded him. 5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.
6 Sarah said, “God has brought me laughter, and everyone who hears about this will laugh with me.” 7 And she added, “Who would have said to Abraham that Sarah would nurse children? Yet I have borne him a son in his old age.”
I’d like to bring up wider historical context in these early sections of Genesis. Where did the slaves come from? Abraham and Sarah were half siblings and there seems to be an interest in keeping the bloodlines pure, as has been true with royalty throughout the ages, even through inbreeding. Was there something about God’s chosen people which was genetically different from the slaves, perhaps through them being an alien race or signified through rH negative blood? I am only speculating.
Of course the birth of Isaac led to the exile of the first born son Ishmael:
Hagar and Ishmael Sent Away
8 The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast. 9 But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, 10 and she said to Abraham, “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.”
11 The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. 12 But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring[b] will be reckoned. 13 I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your offspring.”
14 Early the next morning Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy. She went on her way and wandered in the Desert of Beersheba.
15 When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went off and sat down about a bowshot away, for she thought, “I cannot watch the boy die.” And as she sat there, she[c] began to sob.
17 God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18 Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.”
19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink.
20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. 21 While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt.
In theory of course then Isaac’s progeny became the Jewish people who later bore out Jesus Christ and the Christians. The progeny of Ishmael became the Muslim people in an ultra simplified dichotomy. You might be asking where do we go from here.
The Bible works best when it is subconsciously embedded into the collective mythos. Some reject it wholesale as the God, especially of the Old Testament, appears to be a vindictive control freak, smiting people here and there willy nilly and coming up with pages of obscene and contradictory rules that often conveniently omit the priestly class from scrutiny. God has certainly commanded wholesale massacres and is certainly okay with the enslavement and rape of children in some parts of the Bible. It’s continued on for Millenia with this doctrine as a driving force in conflicts too numerous to mention.
Other people accept the Bible as the unfallible word of God, though they can’t seem to see the inconvenient parts of the story or the ways that this might have been used by the current priestly class of shills and actors to steer them towards acceptance of mass murder and theivery.
I agree with Brian Shillavy who believes that the New Covenant ie the New Testament of Jesus negated previous things said:
“So God made a promise to the Arab people as well, to become a “great nation”, where “nation” often in Biblical texts means an ethnic group of people.
The Messiah Jesus came through the son of promise, Isaac, but the true “chosen people” today are those who belong to The Faith, regardless of ethnicity or religious affiliation, and 100% dependent on the faith of Abraham which produced his descendant and great grandson, Jesus Christ.
For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.
For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void.
For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, as it is written,
“I have made you the father of many nations”
—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.
In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” (Romans 4:13-18)
They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.
To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
But it is not as though the word of God has failed.
For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.”
This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. (Romans 9:4-8)
Could the Semitic people who are descended from Abraham’s other son have a different purpose in end time prophecies than what the Zionists are claiming?
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The greatest Arab in history is undoubtedly the Arab prophet, Mohammed, and the founder of the Islamic religion.
The Muslims were the only ones who could stand against the Jesuit “Knights of Templar” and the Catholic armies during the period of medieval times known as “The Crusades“, as they used armed force to regain control of Jerusalem.
Could we see something similar today, with events unfolding in a far different sequence of events than what the Christian Zionists are predicting for End Times prophecy?
This could be my least liked or my most liked post, though it really should be middle of the road. I am just reading a story and posting my observations about it.
I may make this a multi part series. We shall see. This photo is of the southern Nai Yang Beach view at sunset. I experienced great healing by swimming in the water yesterday. It was like all of the stress and my acute bundle of nerves in the center of my pancreas just disappeared out into the water like it hadn’t even happened. God is great. I am sure that I needed it, for some reason, to be back here.
Talk about tricky waters to wade into, Amy.
(I have a post in draft form for weeks on same subject;-I go dip into here and there but haven't completed.)
Once faith is involved, which is so often wound up with religious tradition, (not necessarily the same thing) interpretation is shaped and will usually act to confirm previous convictions, rather than challenge them.
Deep knot to undo - if you even wanted to - since challenging doctrine feels like challenging the intuition of faith. So much resistance built in.
The Hopis and Mayan and Christians all have prophesies about this time. Certainly a version of the world is ending - that needs to go. Will that include the control-matrix bit religion is tied into?
IDK. But I do appreciate Biglino's Naked Bible and Paul Wallis' research which definitely brings non humans into the story.
That our religious stories continue to provide cover for unacceptable behavior can not be denied. Pointing it out never makes one popular. Religion - like everything that's been distorted on our planet - has been used - imo - to control and justify horrors - as much as its been used to glorify God and inspire believers.
Talk about a mixed bag. Good on you, for going there, Amy.
Hebrew Bible Verses.
"DNA Never Lies" By Garcia Wilde https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2024/11/dna-never-lies/ "A John Hopkins Genetic Study has concluded that 97.5% of the “Judaica” living in the Zionist settlement known as Israel have no connection to the ancient Hebrews and neither do they have blood ties to ancient Israel. The study also pointed out that 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and blood. Another study (New York Genome Centre, 2021) revealed that the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age people who lived in the Holy Land around 2500-1700 BCE. A third study (John Hopkins School of Public Health) strongly backed the Khazarian Hypothesis, as opposed to the Rhineland Hypothesis of European Jewish (Ashkenazi) origin"............